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Are Scots truly that Left Wing?

163 replies

ragged · 28/03/2015 13:31

The SNP seems to have a very left-of-centre political agenda and set of policies. Separate from their aim of independence.

If every party campaigning in Scotland was equally pro-independence, would as many Scots still vote SNP because they still liked their left wing policies best?

I've sometimes wondered if SNP would plummet in popularity post independence, because maybe most Scots don't truly support their other priorities & policies (or do they?)

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BlueCheeseandChocolate · 28/03/2015 15:03

Bear in mind that since the referendum the SNP (and the Greens to a lesser extent) have massively increased party membership. The SNP membership now stands at 100,000 which if I recall makes them the third biggest party in the UK.

BlueCheeseandChocolate · 28/03/2015 15:01

As tab and hirples have said, people have been voting for them consistently since devolution, without much thought that it would actually lead to independence, which would indicate policies.

HirplesWithHaggis · 28/03/2015 14:42

In Scottish Parliamentary elections, I'd say it's their policies. In this particular Westminster General election, there's probably a high "protest" vote factoring in. Tories are massively unpopular, LibDems haven't been impressive, and Labour have completely lost touch. Who else to vote for, this time round, but the SNP? The Scottish Parliamentary elections next year, however, may see some reduction in SNP MSPs as the Greens and SSP will pick up a lot of votes on the list.

ragged · 28/03/2015 14:34

People say that Scotland always voted Conservative in the 1950s when rest of country was tending to vote Labour. When and Why did things change?

I live in England. I was listening to Any Questions & am always struck at how left wing SNP outlook is (compared to rUK parties) and I wondered how many Scots think "I'll vote for them as gesture of nationalism (and ignore what else they say) " rather than "I'll vote for them because I like their policy bundle better than the other parties'."

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BlueCheeseandChocolate · 28/03/2015 14:21

Just out of interest Ragged do you live in Scotland or are you an interested bystander so to speak?

machair · 28/03/2015 14:07

Apparently the UK General Election of 1955 was the last time the Conservatives won the most seats in Scotland. In recent times, the rural parts of Scotland have tended to be more lib dem (it will be interesting to see how many retain their seats at the forthcoming election).

HirplesWithHaggis · 28/03/2015 14:07

The SNP have been in government in Scotland since 2007, with an outright majority since 2011 (under an electoral system designed to prevent majority governments) so we're not unfamiliar with how they actually perform, as opposed to what they say they'll do. And, in the main, they do do what they say they will.

We like that our gvt spend some of our education budget on free tuition.

We like that some of our NHS budget goes on free prescriptions, and on free personal care.

We like that a major engineering project (the new Forth crossing) is being completed early and underbudget, with the savings going to start duelling the A96.

They're not perfect, nobody is. But yes, they're massively popular, and not just for indy purposes.

BlueCheeseandChocolate · 28/03/2015 14:07

Oodear the Pandas are extremely popular...

PacificDogwood · 28/03/2015 14:06

My impression is that people may well by conservative, but not Consevative IYSWIM.
SNP policies vary IMO from more right of centre to more left of centre.

As I cannot vote in the GE (not British) I am looking forward to following the campaign and public debate without needing to consider my own vote Grin.
The outcome will of course affect me too Hmm

Shesparkles · 28/03/2015 14:03

The SNP seem to veer from left to right, depending on what suits their agenda at the time. Dh has always referred to them as Tories in kilts.
I'm in Scotand, and have no ide a which way I'm going to vote at the election, heart says labour, heart says tactical vote to get Cameron out, head say "are you kidding-Milliband would be worse". Feck knows

Oodear · 28/03/2015 14:00

And of course as the joke goes we have more pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs.

I love that Grin

BlueCheeseandChocolate · 28/03/2015 13:56

Scots have traditionally been more left wing than the rest of the country.

Many people have bad memories of the actions of the Conservative government during the 1980s.

And of course as the joke goes we have more pandas in Scotland than Tory MPs.

As for the SNP, they are generally considered to have done fairly well in the Scottish government.

Who knows how the General Election will go though, it'll be interesting to see.

tabulahrasa · 28/03/2015 13:36

Well seeing as a lot of people voted for the SNP and then didn't vote for independence... I'm guessing they are actually voting for their other policies.