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Labour, Conservative... Can someone summarise them I am confused!

66 replies

Missetch · 17/07/2014 17:53

I don't know where to start with supporting either and it's probably because I feel overwhelmed with what they stand for...

I could do with a nutshell version of them to help me decide who I want to support...

Can anyone help?

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ohmymimi · 18/07/2014 11:51

You're likely to be trampled by a stampede of hobby-horses if you stick around here. As you can see, it's started already.

digdeepforanswers · 18/07/2014 11:51

SORRY.....I meant "The tories never won an election WITHOUT the support of some working class people"

digdeepforanswers · 18/07/2014 11:49

Well , serious political parties always want to win. Opinion polls are very powerful these days. (Cameron sacked mate Gove because of them)

The Tories never won a majority with the support of some working class people.

In the 1960s the research showed women voted Tory in large numbers.
Double what men did.

Anyone know what the current research shows on this gender angle?

( I am not an activist but take a serious interest) I would vote GREEN if they had any chance of winning. But will stay with Labour. Never voted Tory or Lib-Dem

ohmymimi · 18/07/2014 11:49

On a more useful tack, you could take a look at the 'Voting Counts' website. What you are seeking is unbiased information, which you are unlikely to find in this Forum. Good luck.

Middleagedmotheroftwo · 18/07/2014 11:46

Which is what claig said really....

And digdeep - why should the state (ie me) fund spare bedrooms for people who have got more bedrooms than people, when I can't afford enough bedrooms in the house I work hard to pay for?

Middleagedmotheroftwo · 18/07/2014 11:43

Labour - state should provide
Conservative - state should enable people to provide for themselves

ohmymimi · 18/07/2014 11:42

Prepare to be even more confused. Smile

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 18/07/2014 11:38

What Claig said.

Labour used to stand for working people but not since new labour.

digdeepforanswers · 18/07/2014 11:36

Well a Labour government would not have done the cruel Bedroom Tax
The excesses in welfare changes that Iain Duncan Smith has done.

Or given people on 150 grand a year tax cuts.

Labour would probably have had a similer number of women in the Cabinet (Because they have many more women MPs than the Tories.

To be fair to the Tories, who are not a fair party. Thye will opt for compulsory female candidate lists (eventually)

claig · 17/07/2014 22:07

In more detail

Labour - nanny state, welfare party, higher taxation, dumbing down, lowering of aspiration, emphasis on community rather than individual and less interested in freedom, liberties and self-determination, more interested in equality and equalisation

Tories - nanny state, lower taxation, aspiration, emphasis on individuals rather than community and more interested in freedom, liberties and self-determination

UKIP - common sense party, cut the green crap, lower taxation, self-determination

claig · 17/07/2014 21:59

Labour - metropolitan elite, PPEs, millionaires and luvvies who claim to have ordinary people's interests at heart

Tories - metropolitan elite, PPEs, millionaires and luvvies who claim to have hardworking people's interests at heart. Modernisers, so very similar to Labour PPEs etc

UKIP - party of the people, for the people, by the people. Very few PPEs, no luvvies, a few millionaires.

BestIsWest · 17/07/2014 20:18

Or as my Dad explained it to me when I was 6

Labour is for the working man or woman. The Tories are for the rich.

thecuntureshow · 17/07/2014 20:12

Labour - for the many

Conservative - for the few

Howzat?

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Missetch · 17/07/2014 20:11

Oh I see! but yeah as biased as you like!

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Missetch · 17/07/2014 20:10

Anything really...

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grimbletart · 17/07/2014 19:48

Are you expecting an unbiased response on MN? Grin