The EU. In or out?

They tell us we have to stay in Europe for business and jobs. What business? Zero hour contracts, internships and wages that people can't afford to live on?

The EU is a big business club run by appointees who wish to further globalisation.

Chuka Umunna said that many UKIP voters were people who had been left behind by globalisation and that training in how to use emails and connect with the global economy may change their views. The politicians are cluless and out-of-touch.

There will come a time when people will say that business is there to serve us, to serve society rather than us working zero hour contracts to serve it. A huge change in politics will come and the business puppets will be left stranded when the tide turns. People will demand democracy and self-determination and that jobs be protected instead of being at the mercy of global markets.

The public have fallen out of love with the bankers, while the politicians still admire them. The public have fallen out of love with the elites and are asking what they are spending our money on and what they are doing to improve our societies. So far the answers they are getting are not satisfying them. The public has fallen out of love with the EU elite and the whole structure of unaccountable global governance.

It's broke, the economy is broke and the European dream of the elites is broke as the EU elections showed.

They are busy rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic like headless chickens in blind panic.

More young people in France voted for the Front National than any other party. That is hugely significant since the young are the future and also the young are usually left wing since they lack years of experience.

All of the disastrous decisions - Libya, Syria, Ukraine, the Euro, eco taxes, the banking scandals, high taxation, failing socialist policies and eventually the transatlantic trade deal which the US wants and the evident lack of national sovereignty and independence and the obvious rule by puppets - will cause the youth in France to vote for change.

The Tories and Cameron don't want to leave Europe.

I think the entire EU will collapse. The time of empires ruled by Councils, Presidencies and politburos is over. The Soviet Empire collapsed and now the EU empire is still growing and trying to swallow up former Soviet satellites. But the recent EU elections showed the writing on the wall. The people have had enough. The bankers and elites have failed them and delivered a catastrophic economic climate and are still all banging on the drum of catastrophic climate change too. But the unaccountable elite are like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. No one believes them anymore. There is a crisis of faith in our leaders and since they are in thrall to the bankers and global business, there is nothing they can do to change. I don't think they can fix what is broke and restore faith in their leadership.

We are still in the top 6 or 7 economies in the world. If we restore our great education system, we wil still produce great things. It won't just be us who leave the EU, it will be other countries too.

The US wants us to stay in and it wants more countries to join. One day Ukraine too. But eventually there will be politicians who listen to the people and say that we will have to leave.

In

Economics. Better for economy and jobs here.

Being able to travel freely around Europe.

Having a say in things like standards/foreign affairs matters/cross European government. We would still be held to these if we left EU, nut would no longwr have a say.

The EU will exist whether we choose to be part of it or not.

I dont think independence would work for us.

What alternative is there? 53rd American state? Too far away. We are part of Europe, geographically. It is good to be a part of a larger group of nations for some tjings.

However, some things do need to change and there does need to be better autonomy for member states for some issues, but greater unity for a few things too. It isn't perfect, but independence would he a while lot worse.

LottaPianos

We belonged to economy 'clubs' before we joined the EEC. EFTA and the Commonwealth. Everything ran so smoothly before the EEC became the EU without anyone knowing what that really meant - and we did not vote for the EU set up.

OUT

In.

I don't like the way that it is now and I'm certainly not up for an 'ever-closer union' but I fear that leaving would end up with the UK becoming irrelevant.

I think things are only likely to get worse. The puppets may lead Europe into a confrontation with Russia, the puppets will try and impose the transatlantic trade deal, there will be more privatisations, more banking ripoffs, the attempt to introduce GM food. The tide is now turning on global warming and eco taxes and the public across Europe are no longer fooled.
The divide between the people and the puppets and elites will only increase and I think that the French people will vote for change.

IN

To leave would be irrational and short minded. To think that the UK in whatever form it might take after September can stand on its own two feet is delusional.

Funny how its the same names who pop up time and again with the same deluded beliefs about some future 'perfect' society.

I think the Front National will eventually gain power or the Presidency, so I think there will be big changes after that.

Will you change to French? Because within 10 years, I think there is a fair chance that France may leave as well.

In. Because DH's industry (and mine to a lesser extent) will be hamstrung if we pull out and I really don't want to have to emigrate.

Won't have to rejoin as won't be leaving, ongoing membership will be negotiated & sorted during the 18 month period following a Yes vote.

The scaremongering nonsense really is just ridiculous.

In.
Not a huge fan of the EU but I think we need to stay inside the tent on this one. We're not an empire anymore and need to join with other countries to stay strong

IN.

I hope to god Scotland votes YES in September before we are dragged out the EU.

Personally I would like us to be in but it does appear that as time goes on it's clear there will become a point where we will leave.

Right now I can't decide if Cameron did the right thing. Making a stand is one thing but politics is about the art of compromise. I can't help but wonder if the smart thing to do would have been to get concessions elsewhere in the face of defeat. It was widely reported that the EU were making noises about who we wanted to see in other positions so maybe it would have been better to get something.....rather than nothing.

The UK has never been comfortable with being in the EU and feel that the EU should stop at being a common market. In which case maybe the answer for the UK is to leave and remain a member of the EEA.

A 'club' where we have to abide by all the rules but not able to help set any rules.

Like I said earlier, I would like us to stay in. I honestly think the benefits outweigh the bad but it seems increasingly likely that we will leave.

Out

We are being dictated to by the eu

They have much too much power in our government and have taken away so much of our own powers.

Out

The EU will drag us into a war. They are meddling in the Ukraine crisis, which is antagonsing Russia.

Let's stop funding this vile institution and stop providing the funding that sustains it.

Out

'Can you put me down for shake it all about please?'

So you're wth Cameron

Can you put me down for shake it all about please