So, what will it take for the Tories tod itch Cameron?

' Danny Alexander works well in coalition but isn't particularly charismatic; Cable's got the appeal but hasn't been great in coalition.'

I actually like Danny Alexander a lot. At the beginning, I thought he had little charisma etc, but after listening to him, my respect for him has increased. He is serious, makes good sense and never gets angry when challenged etc. He is surprisingly good and is not arrogant and doesn't put voters off. He is capable and could do the job. The public cares more about substance than image and spin and the key quality that a politician must have is not to turn the public off with falseness and spin and he does not turn the public off.

Vince Cable is also OK and the fact that he has challenged the Tories is a plus point for him. It shows that he is his own man and has his own beliefs, he is not just a professional spinner, so challenging the Tories and differentiating himself from them will win him votes.

I think you're right about Clegg, Claig. Who could take over from him? They'd need someone who could work with the Conservatives in coalition and has popular appeal? Danny Alexander works well in coalition but isn't particularly charismatic; Cable's got the appeal but hasn't been great in coalition.

I think Cleggy will also be gone soon after the Euro elections. Holding onto him will also be disastrous for the LibDems.

"the Tories at a shockingly low 19%"

And this is for a party that has promised to offer a referendum on the EU. It hasn't worked. They need new faces, new policies and no more spin.

I think Cameron will be gone soon after the Euro elections. A new Sunday Times poll for the Euro elections shows UKIP in the lead at 31%, Labour at 28% and the Tories at a shockingly low 19%.

UKIP is the party that not long ago was described by some leading Tories as "fruitcakes, loons and racists".

'Replacing him now means the Conservatives could kiss goodbye to whatever chance they have of a majority in 2015'

I think holding on to him means kissing goodbye to a majority in 2015.

Isitmebut, are you insinuating that only Tory voters are stupid enough to vote for UKIP?

I think he's safe until the next election (barring some kind of personal scandal or catastrophic event). Replacing him now means the Conservatives could kiss goodbye to whatever chance they have of a majority in 2015. Even if they won in 2015 I doubt he'd last the parliament - there are too many people positioning themselves to take over the leadership.

WetAugust….sorry, I thought you were playing an old Cameron record, I never saw Scotland.lol

The EU Election; as I say a UKip protest vote against the government where the Conservatives come third has long been expected – even though they are the only main party who will offer the people a referendum – how stupid a protest is that, don’t answer.

The Scotland Independence vote: when the Conservatives lost power in 1997, we were as close to Scottish independence then, as Farage becoming Prime Minister in 2015, well nearly lol.

In a nutshell, we then get a 1997 Labour Party stuffed with senior Scottish M.P.’s who then brought us to where we are now; as the teased Scotland with more power (for Labour votes) thinking it was near mathematically impossible for Salmond’s SNP to gain enough power themselves, to force the independence vote – so bearing in mind the parliamentary Labour Party aren’t big on ‘people power voting’, how did that work out?

It just so happens the referendum is happening on Cameron’s watch, with I think 1 Conservative Westminster MP in Scotland, with I think around 20 Labour Westminster MPs – so on a partisan basis, one could argue that if Scotland is independent, and both parties lose their MP’s, it will go a long way to addressing Labour’s dodgy electoral boundary lines elsewhere – so Cameron could become a Conservative legend. lol

But unlike Miliband who’d do anything including knife his brother for votes, Cameron understanding the historical significance and the common sense in remaining together, wants to do what he believes is right for Queen and the rest of the UK – so knowing he and his party is about as welcome as Farage and Ukip in Scotland, is allowing Labour to lead the ‘STAY’ campaign so if they don’t raise their ‘stay’ game, politically they are the party that will lose out.

A major incentive you’d think and that probably explains Mr Miliband’s speech last week on zero-hours reform in Scotland, clumsily IMO, telling them he can help them if they stay in the UK, with treaty reforms as a UK ‘job lot’, literally.

In conclusion; don’t hold your breath, as in the EU elections he was always going to be third and if Scotland leave the UK it will be due to Labour’s electoral miscalculations and rubbish economic legacy, Cameron will DEFINITELY be fighting the 2015 general election with POSITIVE electioneering, on the growing economy/jobs due to their plan/policies.

But I’d suspect if the Conservatives badly lose the 2015 general election, taking into consideration the stacked boundary lines that means they need to be about 7-8% AHEAD of Labour in the polls to get a small majority, he’d probably go.

But then again, what if he ‘fails’ re Scotland and the Conservatives could bounce back more easily in 2020 once Labour lose Scottish Westminster seats and screw the economy/jobs again, or would Labour in power be able to fix that as well and keep those seats.

What a totally stupid question.

Ukip is THE one-policy-pony-party of 'protest' with nothing else to offer. and what a taxpayer expensive protest it is with sub standard Ukip MEP's who don't want to be in Europe on;MEP’s £78,000 annual salary + Daily attendance Allowance + Staff Costs + £3,500 monthly allowance paid into their personal account no matter what their expenses are.

The Conservatives as the party in governments so as in EVERY OTHER NON GENERAL ELECTION will be protested against, despite the fantastic recovery in the economy - and thanks to their reforms to keep the UK's £157 bil budget deficit in control finances and stimulus to the Private Sector/jobs.

There is nothing else the Conservatives can do other than what they have done, no matter who led them.

If Labour would have been re elected in 2010, this country would have been in a financial, job and social crisis, so come 2015, as in 1979 'the people' would have been looking for the Conservatives to get us out of the crisis.

So thanks to the Labour friendly electoral boundary lines, in 2015 it will be;
Vote Labour to get a pro EU, pro immigration and economically incompetent Labour/Miliband
or
Vote Ukip get a pro EU, pro immigration and economically incompetent Labour/Miliband.

So come 2015 if Ukip still have the protest vote ON THE DAY, the country will get what it deserves - but before then Ukip after 20-years will finally have to produce an election manifesto it stands for that gets votes from all three main parties - and those policies will be scrutinized by all to spot the "drivel before Farage does, usually AFTER the election.

news.sky.com/story/1200525/nigel-farage-disowns-ukip-manifesto-as-drivel
UKIP leader Nigel Farage has disowned the party's entire (2010) general election manifesto - which he helped launch - branding it "drivel”.