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Do you think the Tories will get a majority in 2015?

294 replies

lottieandmia · 06/04/2014 10:41

?

Or are we more likely to have another coalition?

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Hassled · 06/04/2014 21:03

I think it'll be bloody close UNLESS Labour up their game quite considerably. They need to actually start showing people what they stand for - they need to take back some initiative.

I think all main parties need to be seriously worried about UKIP. They scare the fuck out of me. UKIP will get votes on the basis that people are thinking LibDem = small bastards, Con = big bastards, Labour = previous bastards - so they might as well vote for that affable bloke they've seen on the telly. Farage is dangerous - he has that likeability that people go for, without understanding what he represents.

hotcrosshunny · 06/04/2014 21:01

Labour's ideology can not pay the bills, the only reason they lasted so long was the economy they inherited in 1997 (no where near the basket case they passed over in 1979) that had grown for 27 conseq quarters - and they increased spending 50% over several years, unprecedented anywhere I can think off, funded by the taxes from speculation - which caused the budget deficit

I didn't hear the Tories complaining at the time. Oh, wait, you're forgetting the worldwide recession...

hotcrosshunny · 06/04/2014 20:59

Coalition please.

They're all shite.

fayrae · 06/04/2014 20:58

Polly Toynbee is pretty much wrong about anything, ssd.

fayrae · 06/04/2014 20:56

I see another coalition. Either Tory/UKIP or Labour/Libdem. Or maybe Tory/Libdem again. Or even Labour/UKIP. Anything could happen. It really should be shoe-in for Labour but they seem to be doing everything they can not to win.

Viviennemary · 06/04/2014 20:30

I think it will be very close and another coalition most likely. I wonder if UKIP will get many seats. I think this Maria Miller thing has damaged the Tory vote.

ssd · 06/04/2014 20:16

Polly Toynbee did well not to smack his smug face when he was poo pooing everything she said as of she was a naughty child

SauvignonBlanche · 06/04/2014 16:49

God, I fucking hope not. IDS make me feel sick this morning.

SilverOldie · 06/04/2014 16:46

Yes, the Tories will win - thank god.

overthemill · 06/04/2014 16:05

No the Tories won't win

motown3000 · 06/04/2014 15:52

Take the 57 Scottish seats away , you have 593 seats left meaning to gain a Majority Government you need 297. The Conservative Party have 295 Seats in England alone. ttosca. Be very Worried , because when Scotland becomes the "SSR: Scottish Socialist Republic and when the Conservative Party , elect a "Normal" Multi Cultural Comprehensive Educated Leader, of which there are two Choices. Labour Will be in Serious trouble, Labour is a Party that has nothing to offer anyone South Of Liverpool.

Isitmebut · 06/04/2014 14:39

Dotnet ....Labour's policy for 50% of children going to Uni was never funded and the review to give option was to report after the general election - so you never knew what they'd do to fund their own policy. Scotland get more funding from England per head than the English, so they have more options for 'nice' things.

ttosca .... Labour's ideology can not pay the bills, the only reason they lasted so long was the economy they inherited in 1997 (no where near the basket case they passed over in 1979) that had grown for 27 conseq quarters - and they increased spending 50% over several years, unprecedented anywhere I can think off, funded by the taxes from speculation - which caused the budget deficit.

If Labour's policies are sustainable, tell me the last time anti business Labour left power with UK unemployment LOWER than when they come in????

lottieandmia · 06/04/2014 14:27

This idea of no housing benefit for the under 25s is really bloody scary.

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dotnet · 06/04/2014 13:56

Labour making student fees a BIT less horrendous will be popular, though I don't see why we can't give our kids free higher education again, as the Scots do. The bloody coalition managed to make higher education for students in England the most expensive in the whole of Europe. AND in so doing, they've inculcated in our children the insane notion that personal debt is absolutely fine. What planet do they live on - no understanding of ordinary people's lives and concerns.
Labour will certainly get in next time.

lottieandmia · 06/04/2014 13:14

None of the leaders are very popular. I tend to agree a coalition is likely.

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AfricanExport · 06/04/2014 13:07

Honestly .. If the only alternative is Miliband (Confused ) then I hope to god that the tories do get back in.

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ttosca · 06/04/2014 12:34

As Labour through dodgy boundaries only need 35% of the vote to get a majority in parliament (so the Conservative would need a several point LEAD in the polls to get a small majority) it is unlikely the Conservatives form a government on their own.

The Tory scum won't have a majority ever again, because their ideology is from the Edwardian and Vicotrian era, and there simply aren't enough old, reactionary white men left to vote for them. They're a part of the past.

But what happens on a Scottish vote for independence this year, look at the ‘colours’ on the electoral map of ENGLAND after the 2010; how can ANYONE say that Labour is the party of England?

You're confusing electoral area with percentage of popular votes. Either because you're stupid or because you're again deliberately misleading people.

Isitmebut · 06/04/2014 12:24

As Labour through dodgy boundaries only need 35% of the vote to get a majority in parliament (so the Conservative would need a several point LEAD in the polls to get a small majority) it is unlikely the Conservatives form a government on their own.

But what happens on a Scottish vote for independence this year, look at the ‘colours’ on the electoral map of ENGLAND after the 2010; how can ANYONE say that Labour is the party of England?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2046305-On-a-Scottish-yes-still-allowed-to-vote-in-the-2015-election

And if anyone thinks giving Labour another crack at doing further damage to our finances, resulting in more UK debt and LESS spending – that can only be partially solved with far more tax rises for all as was seen after they won the 1997 election they are mad.

An economy built on a fat Public Sector and welfare, without a Private Sector to support it and £1.5 trillion of national debt already mainly based on that ‘economic model’ – is the economics of a socialist mad house. Simple really, when you THINK about it.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2044969--Cost-of-Living-a-cunning-plan

lottieandmia · 06/04/2014 12:06

I hope you are right ttosca. David Cameron is not very popular. I am surprised he hasn't been replaced. Often if the government had a mandate the first time people stick with better the devil you know for two terms but this time the situation was different.

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EdithWeston · 06/04/2014 11:27

Not so sure ttosca - look at the graphs: if the trend continues (Tory and UKIP moving up, Lab and moving down) then the result on today's snapshot will be badly wrong.

And until there's a proper Labour manifesto out, there's a big confounder: we need polls after they've set their stall out. And they are leaving it rather late now. Anyone know their planned timing?

ttosca · 06/04/2014 11:22

...At least if current voting trends continue.

ttosca · 06/04/2014 11:21

No:

www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/gainloss.html

We'll be rid of the psychopaths soon.

FriedFishAndBread · 06/04/2014 11:15

It is scary when you think how popular ukip has grown.

All because he likes a pint and a fag and calls a spade a spade... urgh

I like a pint and the odd fag, doesn't mean I like his policys and party views.

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