Clegg v Farage Round 2

So, return to your constituencies and prepare .... to join the Peoples Army and otherthrow the Establishment.

Never thought I'd live to see that

And the opinion polls are crazy! Some organisations maust really be trying to keep UKIP happy or (more likely) be attempting to screw what they can out of the current Big 3 who must be running very scared.

It's the May local elections that should worry them - not the EP election, MEPS have no power anyway.

The trouble with Clegg is that he actually believes there is no need for separate countries and that having one big entity called 'Europe' is actually better than having a lot of disperate little countries. In his mind he can't see Britain making it's own trade deals, defending itself etc etc. He thinks we can only do that effectively if we are part of this big 'Europe'.

Once you realise that, there's no point in trying to debate with him. He's so thoroughly European through and through. His background is Dutch, Polish, Russian, Ukranian and British. he's married to a Spaniard, speaks five languages, has worked for the EU..... He is so throughly European I expect he would even describe himself as European rather than British. I suspect that he thinks he is more 'modern' in outlook than the average English bloke too. I can see how, with that sort of background and experience, that little England probably does seem quite quaint and old-fashioned.

But you can like Europe without having to like the EU. That's where I think he has lost the plot. I cannot see how the EU can be defended when its own auditors have refused to sign its accounts.

Unless your future includes a plan to return to work for the EU.....

Clegg was terrible. I think he got slaughtered this week.

Really? I would have given this round to Clegg, even though I can't stand him. I just think his performance will have pulled the eyes over the public - again.

The 'remembering-the-name-of-the-questioner is something he started during the last GE televised debate. Puke-worry!

Clegg came across as bombastoc, pompous, over-prepared and evasive. He demonstrated no faith in the UK's ability to govern itself or even defend itself - duh, that's why we're a member of NATO!

But he will pay for this performance because there is no way that the EU only make 7% of our lawys and he was so adamant about that figure you could almost hear the journos stampeding out of the studio to the HofP library to check.
To get to 7% I think he have to include every bye-law ever passed by every parish council .

But it's just another example of Clegg's reckless streak - like when he said he's slept with less than 30 women - the Cleggover affair. Why does he come out with this 'dodgy' stuff like the 7% that he knows he a lie and that he should know will get found out. I guess that's why he's a politician - he's a risk-taker.

Nigel was subdued to the point where he looked defeated. At one point Dimbers was doing the Clegg-bashing on Nigel's behalf while he just watched
Nigel perked up a bit in the middle and ended not too badly. Liked the bit when he accused Clegg of telling big EU porkies. I think Nigel felt like I did - what's the point in debating with someone who is lying to support their cause?

Anyway Nigel is obviously reading Mumsnet because he issued an open invitation to the public to join my Popular Front for the Overthrow of all Establishment Politicians. He actually called for an overthrow! Bless!

I hate EU debates - I want to throw things at the telly. But the BBC wasn't as biased as I expected them to me. Perhaps they have seen the error of their ways now John Humphries has admitted that the BBC may not always have been what our Fox News friends call 'fair and balanced'.

Q1 - neutral

Q2 - pro EU