Is Middle England stirring?

I just knew before clicking on this thread that it would have been started by Claig...

Claig…ha ha ha do you have a bet with someone how many times you write “Metropolitan elite” and do you SERIOUSLY believe those writing comments on Daily Mail articles are Tories, rather than gaggle of Ukip supporters who usually can’t use capital letters and finish their comments with stuff like ‘vote ukip coz thyr the best’, which kinda gives it away?

Tell me, did the Metropolitan Elite with Eaton educations take a growing economy in 1997 and turn it into a basket case by 2010?

Which Conservative thought it was a great idea in 2004, with over 500,000 under 25-year olds unemployed, to have a secret immigration policy, that diluted the UK domestic worker pool and brought down pay rates, especially for the lower paid – without building homes for the net 1.5 to 2.0 million that came over?

Which Conservative by conducting that immigration policy on their people then put more pressure on all public services, from midwives to schools?

Oh no it wasn’t, it was the in touch ‘party of the people’ that did that, and have they ever said why? Nothing to do with poorer European nations tend to vote for socialist parties and New Labour saw it as an attempt to increase their vote in the South, NOTHING corrupt about that, to Labour supporters that is.

In a complex world, where our parliament (lawmakers) need to put aside base ideology proven not to work and gain an education to make the right decisions for the country, didn’t we pass the ex postmen, ship stewards and dinosaur MP’s (who can hardly put together a sentence at PMQT) an excellent legacy in 1997 and see it turned into an unbalanced economic disaster?

Is it so bad having people with brains who understand how to run a balanced economy, cut back £170 bil on Labour’s fat government quangos, understand how benefits shouldn’t rise during a boom, understand private sector jobs PAY for the State rather than debts, control immigration and want to give the people a vote on the EU, took a few million lower paid out of tax with the £10k allowance Brown never did, gave the pensioners a rise that brown never etc etc etc?

You can call Conservatives ‘metropolitan elite’, I’d call the only other party that might government in 2015, that caused the economic disaster, something far worse than ‘incompetent socialists’ – and so will my grandchildren’s children, still picking up the bill of that debt, one way or another.

As for Ukip, the Moonies have more policies and use to the British people.

Spinflight....no they have not been debunked, far from it, on the other 'News' board it was admitted by a Ukip poster that Ukip CAN NOT bring the UK out of the EU - as it would need a majority in parliament of 326 to even begin getting legislation through that house, to then hit the majority pro EU Labour and Lib Dem Lords, who have just stopped Cameron's attempt for a 2017 referendum - but he has a Plan B on that.

So who is lying to Ukip supporters, Farage or me?

Good riddance.

If the Tories got a few more Priti Patels, and Douglas Carswells, and got rid of a few more Tim Yeos, Anne McKintoshs and Crispin Blunts, then they wouldn't have to worry so much about UKIP.

Whilst it is nice to see the 'Turnip Taliban' baring it's teeth I suspect it will be a somewhat isolated incident...

As all the old, failed, parties pledged to allow the recall of rogue MPs, and then promptly reneged, Yeo will still sit until the General Election. It is likely that his chums will find him a safe seat elsewhere so this is hardly progress...

" but STILL promises that Ukip can deliver the UK from the EU when it 100% cannot do so - AND STILL sanctions it’s fan-atical supporters to tell the UK that they are any kind of alternative to the mainstream parties – then who knows what is happening at grass roots levels."

I'll assume these statements of yours have been debunked countless times, the road out of the EU is a clear one....

I personally know nobody who likes the Heil and its editor. They are from all walks (the people I know) and hate what it stands for. They don't vote the same way, but they all think Dacre should be lobotomised for his own good.

As for parliament, we could do with 650 independent MPs who are not beholden to one corporation or another, unlike the corrupt tossers we have now. Except we should keep Dennis Skinner, at least he can be trusted, unlike that ham faced wanker.

Interesting.

I wonder if people in middle England are beginning to feel the pinch and have decided to kick out local MPs who don't reflect that reality and live too much in the Westminster bubble.

I hope Middle England does rise up from its torpor and overthrow this corporate government and hang them from lampposts, and then do the same to Dacre, the peoples' bigot™. We need a revolution. We need to nationalise all those things your lot sold to foreign governments and we need to nationalise the Bank of England.

Claig…Strange times; if Ukip, led by an ex-City oil speculator, who issued “drivel” in over 400 pages of their 2010 General Election manifesto he has recently owned up to/disowned, but STILL promises that Ukip can deliver the UK from the EU when it 100% cannot do so - AND STILL sanctions it’s fan-atical supporters to tell the UK that they are any kind of alternative to the mainstream parties – then who knows what is happening at grass roots levels.

One thing is clear, it is that Conservative associations look at policies, but Ukip have nothing to offer, and the only other options are pro EU socialist parties, one of which ruined the country – so don’t panic Claig, middle England, as in the U.S. via the Republican Tea Party, want their elected local politicians accountable to them and not the party line.

FACT; the UK will be either governed in 2015 by Labour of the Conservatives, and as a vote for Ukip is a vote for the Labour Party, who due to ‘fixed’ boundaries only need 35% of the vote to get a majority in parliament, based on ideals you have to wonder what Farages Ukips end game is all about.

So by the General Election any current Ukip voter with half a brain will want to back a real party, with a real track record and policies that worked, rather than a flip flopping policy dream machine, only in politics for power - so will gladly enable the pro EU Labour Party regain it and take us ever deeper into a Federal Europe, without giving the people a say.