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Ukip 'Most Favourably Regarded Party'

341 replies

claig · 18/01/2014 23:08

Is there a quiet revolution going on despite the insults aimed at UKIP and their voters by some people in other parties who refer to good people as nutters, fruitcakes and racists?

How has this happened, how has UKIP become so popular despite the wishes of the great and the good and the TV propaganda of the paid-for media puppets?

I am bafffled and Confused

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/18/ukip-most-favourably-regarded_n_4623876.html

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slithytove · 26/05/2014 00:42

I would love to know why my in laws voted ukip, I may get DH to ask.

slithytove · 26/05/2014 00:41

In laws no as we don't discuss politics, my husband told me it was a protest vote, and my parents because they really had their trust in the Tories damaged after the last general election, and think that something drastic needs to happen for a shake up.

I will state unequivocally that none are racist, disablist, sexist, or any of the other ists that ukip supporters are often called. All are well educated and the older generation are very well off.

In fact, all of them lived abroad in countries where there are no benefits, and you had to pay your own way to be allowed (temporary) entry. They have a very specific approach to immigration and benefits along the lines of Australia or New Zealand.

mrsruffallo · 26/05/2014 00:37

slithy, did they say why?

WetAugust · 26/05/2014 00:29

I find it quite amazing that UKIP have won a seat in Scotland

slithytove · 26/05/2014 00:15

I find it quite amazing.

My parents have been staunchly conservative for years.
My in laws, (Scottish) labour for just as long.
My husband and bil, the Green Party as a protest vote for 2 elections now.

All have voted ukip for this election.

WetAugust · 25/05/2014 23:46

No, they'll try to make UKIP out as racist as people are less likely to vote for a party if they mistakenly believe it to be racist

Politics really is a dirty business

Incidentally, replacing Clegg with Cable would be the final nail in the coffin for the LibDems

mrsruffallo · 25/05/2014 23:26

I wonder if they will drop the 'racist' argument now.

WetAugust · 25/05/2014 23:13

The only way to get OUT of the EU is via UKIP. The Tories want us to stay in. Their negotiations with the EU will achieve nothing. The Tories won't be able to hold a referendum anyway as they will not have an overall majority at the next election.

So they'll carry on kicking the can down the road and trying to shut down all debate on Europe by calling UKIP racist

That's how it works

mrsruffallo · 25/05/2014 23:09

Agree Wet August. I am happy that the BNP have gone. EU is a disaster,no one voted for the unwanted federal gravy train it has become.
Where do we go from here?

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WetAugust · 25/05/2014 23:00

Unemployment. And the worrying thing is that it's the under 30s in France that have voted for Le Penn

The EU is a total disaster and their attempts to deny the people of Europe their democratic right to get rid of this failed project sis directly leading to the emergence of Far Right parties. We are just lucky that UKIP is a centralist party and that The BNP got voted out tonight

Viviennemary · 25/05/2014 22:43

I've only seen a bit. It seems the anti EU parties are winning. Will we end up with a European parliament full of anti Europe people. It's mad. I wonder why France has moved to the far right.

mrsruffallo · 25/05/2014 22:39

So far, in Denmark, France, Greece and the UK the anti european, anti immigration parties are soaring ahead. Can we dismiss all these voters as 'racist and thick' are are we ready to face up to the fact that there are problems that are being brushed under the carpet and the electorate have had enough?

Jinsei · 25/05/2014 22:14

Looks like all the parties agree that UKIP has topped the poll. Quite incredible. marine Le penn 's party has won the French election and is calling for the Govt to resign

Just seen this on the news. I actually want to cry. :(

WetAugust · 25/05/2014 22:12

Looks like all the parties agree that UKIP has topped the poll. Quite incredible. marine Le penn 's party has won the French election and is calling for the Govt to resign

mrsruffallo · 25/05/2014 22:09

European election results should be in very soon. Let's see.

Helpys · 25/05/2014 22:03

iron exactly. Labour has a track record to be judged on- good and bad.
UKIP can and do promise the earth. 'New' parties always do well.

Viviennemary · 25/05/2014 16:49

Somebody on TV this morning (think it might have been Theresa May) said we will control immigration as far as we are able. That's the point they have lost control because of the open borders with the EU countries.

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/05/2014 15:18

ttosca

You can't be more pro establishment than by telling people who they can't protest vote for

ironmaiden999 · 25/05/2014 15:01

Helpy. UKIP's only been around for 20 years and the Labour party a darn sight longer!! Grin

Helpys · 25/05/2014 14:44

Labour gained 300 seats. UKIP 150
[[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/full-list-of-local-election-results-9422609.html Here]

ttosca · 25/05/2014 13:25

But the truth is that there a lot of people saying that the main 3 parties have to change. (or at least listen)

This isn't an argument for voting UKIP, any more than it it's an argument for bringing in poisonous snakes in to your home to stop robbers robbing your house.

Nobody, neither the left nor centrer-right, dispute that the political system is shambolic and that none of the three main parties represent the interests of the public.

Voting for UKIP is not a protest vote. You can't possibly be any more pro-establishment than voting for a fascist party.

ttosca · 25/05/2014 13:20

I am starting to get a little bit fed up of the ukippers being described in a patronising way - i don't think they know any less than the majority of the averagely media informed electorate.

That's not what the UKIP spokeswoman said. She said that UKIP has difficulty appealing to the educated, cultured, and young.

BoneyBackJefferson · 24/05/2014 18:00

Isit not Itis sorry

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