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Some of the effects of Tory party policys

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ttosca · 06/07/2013 15:39

The National Housing Federation has released a report highlighting the impact of 100 days of the bedroom tax in Merseyside:

? 26,500 households in Merseyside are affected by the bedroom tax, only 155 managed to downsize due to shortage of smaller homes.

? 19,055 disabled people in Merseyside are losing over £13m a year due to the bedroom tax. Some grants are available but for three months only.

? 14,000 Merseyside households fell into arrears with their rent in the first four weeks.

?The bedroom tax is hurting the most vulnerable people in Merseyside. It is time to face the facts and repeal this unfair policy now.? David Orr, Chief Executive of the National Housing Federation

Read the National Housing Federation's summary here

bit.ly/1beczNM (includes a link to the pdf report)

More than half of benefit claimants ruled fit to work ended up destitute !

MORE than HALF of people stripped of disability benefits after being ruled ?fit for work? by Atos Origin were left unemployed and without income, according to a Government study.

The Department for Work and Pensions - DWP, who hired the French IT firm to help them slash the benefits bill, have admitted finding out in a survey that 55 per cent of people who lost benefits in the crackdown had failed to find work.

Only 15 per cent were in jobs, with 30 per cent on other benefits.

The DWP claimed people left high and dry were given ?tailored support? to find jobs.

But the extent of the hardship suffered by the Atos victims in the study will only add to the growing public fury about the firm and their methods.

Atos have assessed patients with terminal illnesses as ?fit for work?. And thousands of victims of genuine, chronic conditions have complained of being humiliated by the company?s tests.

So far, Citizens Advice in Scotland have received a shocking 24,000 complaints about Atos, who rake in £110million a year from the taxpayer for their controversial work.

The extent of unemployment among people denied benefits after Atos assessments was revealed by the DWP after a Freedom of Information request.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/atos-scandal-benefits-bosses-admit-1344278?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer0762d&utm_medium=twitter

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TabithaStephens · 09/07/2013 19:04

Did Liverpool council not consider the people of Liverpool who were paying for the council workers? Surely the council should work for the benefit of the people of Liverpool, not just their employees?

Madondogs · 09/07/2013 17:44

And hi Ttosca you sound like my kind of gal Grin

Madondogs · 09/07/2013 17:43

There were mass redundancies in Liverpool in the 80s and the area has never recovered. There is no manufacturing industry and high levels if unemployment.
As to why they vote labour, well it is traditionally a working class area, and people have historic loyalties.
During the 80s Liverpool council fought against the Tory policies and refused to make any council worker redundant .
I totally agree that since then the Labour Party / or government has done nothing for the working class .. In Liverpool or anywhere else in Britain, because they have follower a Blairite agenda, little different from the Tories.

TabithaStephens · 09/07/2013 16:44

Why are so many people in Merseyside on benefits, would seem to be a relevent question. And why do they consistently vote for Labour, when Labour does absolutely nothing to improve the area.

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ttosca · 09/07/2013 16:23

Yes, yes, you're such a moderate nice guy for moderate policies and you're not really a big fan of the coalition, which is why you've pretty much defended almost every single coalition policy on here for the past couple of years.

It's a nice schtick, niceguy, but not really believable.

Can we talk about policies instead of this distraction about who is left-wing or who plays for what team or whatever?

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niceguy2 · 09/07/2013 14:38

@Madondogs. I think if you read more of Ttosca's ramblings posts, you may see why the replies are like that. All things considered I think the replies have been fairly tame.

What you'll probably see soon is a barbed attack on the fact I'm a supposedly right wing Tory lover who wants to see the poor hammered whilst the rich laugh all the way to the bank. When in reality I actually think of myself as fairly centre and I'm not even a big fan of the current coalition. But given Ttosca's is so left wing that he/she makes the Socialist Worker party look like UKIP, it's hard not to be accused of being right wing.

SilverOldie · 09/07/2013 12:54

The comments aren't childish just because you disagree with them.

The Tories and their supporters are routinely abused on this forum so why not Labour or Communists?

Madondogs · 08/07/2013 23:14

I will comment. The replies to the op are childish I the extreme, obviously those posters lack the empathy to understand the traffic human consequences that lie behind the statistics. And since when has being a Labour supporter... Or even someone ' far to the Left' ( count me in on that) been a term of abuse.

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ttosca · 08/07/2013 23:04

I thought it was a coalition?

It's a coalition in name, yes. Not that the Lib Dems were anything other than economic liberals, but it's the Tory party where these truly nasty policies come from. The LDs are now Tory lapdogs in an effort to show that coalition politics can work. This is their number one priority seeing as they will never win a majority outright.

So it is Ironman but the OP is a Tory hating Labour supporter so won't let that stand in the way of yet another pointless rambling.

I'm not a Labour supporter, and you shouldn't assume that I am just because I criticise the Tories.

So anyone care to comment about the actual policies which are destroying so many lives, or is it more important to play Red team vs. Blue team?

Does anyone still think that the 'Bedroom tax' is a good policy?

Does anyone still think that the so-called welfare 'reform' is not being done in a way which demonizes the unemployed and puts legitimate claimants at risk of destitute?

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Uptheairymountain · 08/07/2013 20:27

One of the two parties has to be responsible. I very much doubt it's a Lib Dem policy!

CogitoErgoSometimes · 08/07/2013 14:36

No, not a Labour Supporter. Ttossa's affinities lie to the far left!

SilverOldie · 08/07/2013 13:41

So it is Ironman but the OP is a Tory hating Labour supporter so won't let that stand in the way of yet another pointless rambling.

ironman · 07/07/2013 11:37

I thought it was a coalition?