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Louise Mensch resigns...

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propercharlie · 06/08/2012 09:38

too hard to balance famaily life :(

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AGiraffeOnTheDivingBoard · 06/08/2012 15:26

Yes I have and of course it was a total nightmare and ironically my career did completely plateau after I had DS. I was a lone parent and the juggling was impossible.

But I don't think she left the select committee early because she'd been let down by her nanny / Ex Husband. I just felt it was a hugely important day, loads of publicity and press interest. Cynically I felt she was drawing attention to herself rather than actually had to pick up her kids and absolutely no one could. Though I agree with you Radio it sort of highlights what it's like for normal people - but also got my back up - because she's not normal - she's got heaps of money and no doubt brilliant support. I thought it was an opportunistic way of getting a message across.

Also - if this was a man I think we'd think "spending more time with the family" would be a euphemism for "scandal coming, shit is about hit the fan"

radiohelen · 06/08/2012 15:19

mrsbaldwin I meant in the same way as you might be supportive and think well of any woman who reached high office or success, like Jessica Ennis for instance.
Yes she LM is supposed to support and represent her constituency which she does by turning up to work each day but it doesn't mean we can't be supportive of her as an achieving woman. Why would those things be mutually exclusive?
aGiraffe So you've never ever had a childcare failure? A nanny walked out and left you in the mire? Childminder got sick? This stuff happens and sometimes the buck stops with mum. I don't care if it's a select committee or a meeting with the Queen. If I have to get my lo I'll go get him. Parliament could do with a spate of childcare based incidents. Remind them what it's like for us normal folks.

Viviennemary · 06/08/2012 15:16

I agree with she is a poor example and gives the impression of just playing around with politics. Dipping her toe in, finding it doesn't suit and then off to do something else. Many many women haven't her option of just walking out of jobs. They need the money too much. She doesn't. All in all it's a pretty poor show and does nothing for the cause of women in the workplace.

Metabilis3 · 06/08/2012 15:14

No Helen I see absolutely no reason to be supportive of a woman who uses the excuse that she is going to 'put her family first' in order to get out of doing an irksome, poorly paid job in a country in which she clearly no longer wants to live for reasons which have nothing to do with her children. Had she pointed out that MPs aren't paid anything like enough for the job that we would like the to be doing, even before you consider the sort of sexist press attention that female MPs like her have to put up with, that I could have happily supported. But not this.

mam29 · 06/08/2012 15:14

I might be wrong but she was preselected candiate or even after election was before she remarried although her new husbands ex reckons one of her books written in past was about her husband shes known him a while maybe from her prievious jobs when she worked for a record company.

But still she must have know a constituency outside londona nd being an my would be a time commitment. if she wanted to stand down at next election think its june 2015 then fair enough.

I did think she would get a job in cabinet.
I have no doubt she could easily get a job in the media.

I dount we will ever know the real reason.

I feel dissapointed in her as thinks eh could have made a difference.

being in public eyes not like any other job
im sure shes probably full aware of the backlash.

I imagine the pms annoyed. it was a labour seat before she took it.

squoosh · 06/08/2012 15:13

I think a lot of people are highly doubtful whether she is quitting politics 'to spend time with herfamily'.

Highly doubtful.

Clytaemnestra · 06/08/2012 15:12

I'd be fascinated to see if a man quitting his position to spend time with his family would be treated the same here.

mrsbaldwin · 06/08/2012 15:09

Networkguy - what fresh ideas did LM have? When I last saw her on Newsnight she was saying something or the other about some sort of 'women's issue' (I can't remember what it was) that sounded as if it came out of the 50s.

We should be more supportive of her??? No it's the other way round - she is/was supposed to support (and represent) (some of) us.

radiohelen · 06/08/2012 15:03

No squoosh supporting her because she is young and fresh is ridiculous. However other women shouldn't drag her through the mud BECAUSE she's a woman. You might not like her politics but you can keep out of the mud slinging and be supportive of a woman who tried to make a difference but decided her family came first.
Feminist disappointment or not she had a go, which is more than most people can be bothered to do.
For the record, I'm not a particular fan of hers.

Xenia · 06/08/2012 15:00

I do support her politics and still feel let down. Noone with backbone and grit and doing what is right leaves a consistuency at this stage in a Parliament with only 1900 majority. Whether she's young and fresh or not is nothing to do with this. She is letting women down and giving a poor example to her children.

AGiraffeOnTheDivingBoard · 06/08/2012 14:59

I don't get it - is it normal practise for the resignation letter and reply from the PM to hit the press? Should we be bothered how and why these have even been given to the press?

I'm not sure she is a loss to British politics as I don't know anything about her performance as a back bencher. I do know about her face lifts and have seen her photo shoots and troll spats. I just haven't warmed to her.

I wasn't impressed when she left the House of Commons select committee early to pick her kids up from school. I don't think she did strike a blow for flexible working or for working parents. I thought it was embarrassing. If I had a crucial meeting at work I'd ensure I had water tight childcare for that day and wouldn't be announcing that I was leaving early. I'd quietly let my boss know that I might need extra time another day.

I did like how she foiled the attempts of a tabloid journalist to expose her earlier drug use by forwarding his very unpleasant (blackmail) email to another paper along with her reply. She showed great guts then.

squoosh · 06/08/2012 14:56

So people who oppose her politics should be supportive of her because she's young and fresh?

Xenia · 06/08/2012 14:56

She is amassive disappointment to women and feminists already by changing her name to that of her second husband. Now she resigns to spend more time with family -why not ship her new husband over here to do hours of childcare in 2012. Loads of stepfathers help a lot with children. But no - she's female so she will always follow men's careers. What a terrible led down and example.

One take is that she was not promoted by Cameron - that might well be the reason.

nononotmyname · 06/08/2012 14:45

It's surrounded by leafy lanes. See today's article in the huffington post uk politics section.

Denise34 · 06/08/2012 14:44

How on earth is Corby a Tory seat?

radiohelen · 06/08/2012 14:36

fridge I wish I was LM Grin I might not be struggling to afford the £350 for a new car part right now, I'd be flying off to New York to waft my husband's credit card around a bit.

NetworkGuy · 06/08/2012 14:30

What a lot of negative, bitchy, comments about someone.

I don't know whether this is a typical 'politics' thing ("she's a rich Tory" so I must detest her with every ounce of my being) or because she's been able to get somewhere in politics (anyone posting a failed candidate and green with envy), or is it because "there must be some scandal" (given she's used family reasons) ?

I admired her ability to stand up for herself on QT, and be dead against drugs, and using her experience to underscore her thinking. Far more credibility than a 'goody goody' who is anti-drug on moral / religious / other grounds than her reasoning...

Whether she is a good or bad writer, I cannot comment on. Whether she has been successful [in pure monetary terms] (just as womens' mags are successful but include pages of fiction, and could encourage all sorts of health and other problems, because they go out of their way to suggest what is and is not 'beautiful' or 'fashionable') is another matter.

Sad to lose someone young and with fresher ideas from politics, but worse to see nasty comments from those who should have been more supportive, if there is to be greater equality in our society.

fatfloosie · 06/08/2012 14:15

Didn't know her ex was American OlympyWindowMash, that's very illuminating.

Maybe it's her ex who wants to move back to the US, which would explain perfectly why she would have to make the decision that is best for all parties and move there too, despite being devastated for her career. I'm happy to believe that until I hear different.

SwedishEdith · 06/08/2012 14:13

It won't last. It'll be a last-ditch attempt to keep it together.

Earlybird · 06/08/2012 14:08

And with a quick google, we find out questions we have been asking: her dh is 19 years her senior, her 3 dc are all under age 10, and she married in secret in NYC without even telling her children!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8553011/Tory-MP-Louise-Bagshawe-secretly-marries-Metallica-manager-Peter-Mensch.html

Earlybird · 06/08/2012 14:06

And to follow on from my previous comment about how much money her dh makes, he manages many more bands than just Metallica and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Here is a recently published list:

METALLICA
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
SHANIA TWAIN
JIMMY PAGE
GARBAGE
NINA GORDON
LOSTPROPHETS
MUSE
LIVING THINGS
DEAD 60s
NICKEL CREEK
GILLIAN WELCH
ERIC CHURCH
FOUNTAINS OF WAYNE
SILVERSUN PICKUPS
SNOW PATROL

Note: It is quite common for 'foreign' bands to hire US managers who understand nuances of that market. I expect he manages Muse, Snow Patrol (and other UK based bands) for North America only.

PollyParanoia · 06/08/2012 14:05

She doesn't give a monkeys about anything but her own self-promoting career and her newly loved-up relationship. All that bollocks about 'I have to pick the children up from school'. Her ex is the main carer and I think he probably could have managed to look after the kids what with her being on a parliamentary committee and all. He certainly must have done so when she, allegedly, had her Chicago lift done.
I'm sure she loves her kids, obviously, but I don't think she gives a stuff about the people of Corby or the Conservative Party.
And Xenia is absolutely right (don't always think that), the family courts are very sexist indeed about mothers vs fathers rights.

Earlybird · 06/08/2012 14:02

As a very successful rock band manager (for many years), her dh makes a great deal of money - probably much more than Louise. Perhaps that figures into it.

How old are her dc?

Maybe she just got tired of politics?

LBsBongers · 06/08/2012 14:02

I agree with those who feel she was soft on Murdoch, she knew her future career prospects lay in the US media, scandalous really.