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Just been on a course about new benefit system

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buggyRunner · 08/07/2012 21:33

Christ it's a big shake up.

I say this as someone who won't be personally affected- it is harsh.

Basically if you claim any benefits other than child benefit you're probably going to have a loss.

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gallicgirl · 08/07/2012 22:06

I think the spare room reduction will only apply to registered social landlords initially.

Some councils are starting to consult over the new council tax benefit schemes but it will be late autumn before concrete decisions are made. It will be counted as a discount rather than benefit so appeals will go to the valuation tribunal who won't know what's hit them.

Itsjustafleshwound · 08/07/2012 22:04

What exactly can the poor and dispossessed do exactly?

pancakeboobies · 08/07/2012 22:03

Hi Buggy, they are more far reaching than I expected. I work in Benefits for my local authority and we have known about the changes to Council Tax Benefit for quite a while - the Head of Department has sent a rough draft around to us on how it will be assessed.
Seems the national government are trying to make the state as a whole unaccountable for anything that will negatively effect people - then the local council can be blamed rather than them, same with academies, NHS, etc.

sunshine401 · 08/07/2012 22:02

However they do not stop for non working families on the breadline

sunshine401 · 08/07/2012 22:02

I also think I should point out its the third child not fourth child ben , Ct and LHA stops after 2nd child.

sunshine401 · 08/07/2012 22:00

Well maybe the Mps should not get such a big fat wage from the state in the first place Im sure that will saved LOADS of money hey :)

NicholasTeakozy · 08/07/2012 21:52

I can't understand why the people aren't up in arms about this. These twats are ruining this country. Angry

SerialKipper · 08/07/2012 21:52

They're planning to cut the total DLA payout by 20%.

That decision was made a while back - it's not based on what they will find when they re-assess people. It's purely a financial decision.

The govt estimate DLA fraud at about 0.5%, so this cannot but remove mobility and care assistance from an enormous number of disabled people who do need it.

HaitchJay · 08/07/2012 21:51

No cb for fourth or just ctc etf

NiceViper · 08/07/2012 21:50

Who ran the course, and who was it aimed at?

I find it very strange that items can be promulgated as fact when eg Councils (as mentioned) and Parliament have not yet been informed.

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buggyRunner · 08/07/2012 21:46

I'm just in shock that all dla claimants will need to reapply- regardless of their disability. It will make my job really hard as the stress it will cause my clients.

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buggyRunner · 08/07/2012 21:44

Nothing benefit wise for 4th children + so no benefit, tax credit, hb etc

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buggyRunner · 08/07/2012 21:43

Yes that's correct but on top of the other cuts like if you have a adult living with you- another cut.
Council tax benefit is going to end and it will be up to individual councils (who have no idea at this stage)

Community care grant, crisis loans and budgeting loans all going.

Housing benefit paid not to landlord but individual which will lead to an increase of LLs saying no dss, high deposit etc

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HaitchJay · 08/07/2012 21:39

I'd heard of the bedroom tax. Not sure if it's national rates but was told 16% of benefit will be lost for each room.

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buggyRunner · 08/07/2012 21:36

Housing benefit will drop if you have a spare room- no exception. Spare room defined as children under 16 same sex need to share or different sex under 9 need to share.
Irrespective of the siZe of spare room.

Dla will be changed and all will need reassessing- no exceptions. Of working age - even if they have a life time award.

It goes on and on.

I know the system was floored and needed to change but this is a major shift

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