Just been on a course about new benefit system

Thanks sunshine
Yes, that's how it is already. So that's not changing then? No extra penalty for choosing to live in a bigger house etc?

Best way is just not worry about it what will happen will happen . :)

You will receive a lovely letter one day stating what you will be getting so until then meh.... :o

It is very difficult to get one's head round the changes, unless one has the tiome to research it thoroughly. There is a lot of inaccuracy and misinformaiton in the press. I read one report by a Guardian journalist about the chnages to SN provision which said that the type of therapy we currently have part-funded for our ds would be stopped; thankfully this was a total whopper. I can't help but think that opponents of this government do not help themselves by telling outright lies.
That said, I agree that the approach to DLA is wrong. It is not a fertile source of fraud or dubious claims. And I have little faith in the abilities of the authorities to assess people properly. Given the fact that 99% of NHS doctors have no clue about my ds's not-very-rare-at-all condition (ASD), I cannot see how they are going to assess people who may have mkuch rare conditions competently.

You will get the local rate of whatever area you live in for example if you are entitled to a one bed and the rate for a one bed in your area is £80 p/w you will get anything upto £80 p/w but nothing over. Even if you are in a one bed that is £100 p/w you will not get over the rate of your local area of £80 and so on.

Hope that helps but thats not new in most places thats how it is now. :)

The benifit sytem is changing. Its changing as in the payments are all being put together housing ben, child ben , child tax etc into one universal credit one monthly payment like a salary this is becoming available to everyone not just non-working families.
Yes some things are being put down a bit however more working people will see more (YEAH!) this is because right now people are getting more money by not working than they would if they worked.
Most accounts will be online however if needed do NOT have to be .
The amount of credit you get will be effected by lots of different factors but the money you claim now it will still be around the same.
If unemployed your online account will help you get in to work and give you bonuses for doing so etc
The online service will also be full of helpful links , numbers and online chat people to help when needed.

People are not going to be forced into poverty nothing like it. The papers just want to sell a paper really .

What happens if your 2 bed house is converted to a one bed plus large bathroom? Genuine question btw. Do you think you can get house re-assessed as a one bed?

Sorry but this is bullshit. Unless OP can provide a link to where it says that 4th and subsequent hildren will not receive benefits I would think all this is just heresay or scaremongering. Yes, there are cuts happening but this just sounds very exaggerated.

Julia they're not selling off the Welfare State. They're giving it away. To their corporate buddies.

Apparently we can't afford not to have these cuts. But we can afford to be involved in illegal wars.

Sorry but alot of you do not know what your talking about if you want advice about the new rules coming in you should go onto the DWP website or go into your local job centre. PLEASE do not worry about some of the things being said on here most are NOT true most are coming out of a newspaper/website article which are simply wrong.
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the current national debt is £32k per working house hold.

& posters think we should borrow more money? how muchj should we each take on £40k, £50k.... because at some point we need to balance the books.

then what?

Julia - best post!!

Where have you heard about benefits only being paid up to 3 children? Not read anything official about that yet?

EdithWeston

You really cannot compare the war debt of 1945 with a debt after one of the longest spells of peace the nation has ever known without exceptionally heavy caveats.

Of course you can't. But, to the Left, the fact that the UK's debt was higher when we'd just mortgaged our country and our Empire to defeat Nazi Germany is an argument as to why unlimited debt is harmless.

You really cannot compare the war debt of 1945 with a debt after one of the longest spells of peace the nation has ever known without exceptionally heavy caveats.

debt % of gdp 1945 - 250% - set up NHS
2010 - 60% - sell off entire Welfare State

The thing is it really should not be up to the public purse to pay for people's spare rooms. It should be a matter of public policy to pay for NEED not want.

Of course, there are personal stories of this not being dealt with efficiently. But we live in a time of housing crisis. if you want a spare room you'll need to pay for it. We shouldn't support guest rooms when we can't even house desperate families.

tis great isn't it.
my dd who is disabled and has been since birth, will have to go through all the DLA stuff again, even though she has an indefinite award.
of course she will still get it(or what ever the new name for it is)
but what a waste of money and time,
doing this won't cure her and make her not disabled.
you have ot love D scam, could he have more hatred.

I realise it, all right. Even if I weren't among the frightened masses making sure we have our suicide plans in place, I'd be bloody angry. It's extremely clear we're being governed by inexperienced idiots (I include Gordon in that, btw - he knows his money, but not enough of government) and I violently resent being practised on.

Garlic et al. The interest on debts are not just because of the bankers. Sure of course they share some of the blame but even without the bailouts the recession would have exposed a ruddy great big hole in our finances. The total debt of £1 trillion excludes the financial interventions. It's scarily more if you include them but these are one off events.

I'm much more concerned with our ability to sort out our structural deficit. We're barely scratching the surface with what is needed to be done and listen to everyone moan as though it was the end of the world. I don't think most people even realise we're nowhere close to even breaking even and we're looking at at least another 5-8 years of austerity & more cuts.

People really don't know what's about to hit them...

Yep, they do, Sundae. I was trying to demonstrate that arbitrary rules cause more problems than they solve.

I'm one of those who did move to an area with cheaper housing. There was nothing affordable in London, even before these new cuts. I'm too old, and too ill, to live 2 floors away from a shared toilet. Obviously moving's not an option for the majority - and would be utterly stupid if they were hoping to get back to work in the near future. There's a reason why cheap places are cheap.

I just can't believe any of these policies were put together by grown-ups!

Sorry, garlic, that sounds shit. Lots of people have trouble with their housing. Like a lot of mothers and children living in B&Bs waiting for two bedroom places to come up.

Oh, Sundae, and I won't even get HB if I leave this place voluntarily! The landlord will have to evict me. To do that, they'll need a valid reason such as trashing the house or not paying my rent. Therefore, even if I could afford to vacate my home in favour of a smaller property, I still have to shaft them in order to be housed.