Discrepancy between social housing rents verses private sector rents - how is this legal/fair?

alemci - read the Daily Mail much?

ffs!

And FWIW - I am a landlord and charge the Local Housing Allowance for the area, just under in fact and only let to people on HB and I can tell you I sleep very well at night thanks. Both the families in my houses were finding themselves homeless: one family because their landlord could not keep on paying their mortgage and the other was leaving a DV situation with her children and she could not find somewhere nice to rent on HB (not unusual).

So if I cannot make money doing this what exactly is the point, I do have to cover my expenses and my profit (not huge) enables me to have an income and stay at home and look after my children. In the long term it will provide one of my children with sn financial security so she is not dependant on handouts - good for everyone? I think so - this kind of banter is ill thought through rubbish and bears no resemblance to the reality of life. This is just about people's bitterness at seeing other have something that they don't - the reality is OP if your landlord came and offered you half price rent you would bite his bloody hand off not worry about your neighbour paying double next door.

plus too much immigration and people arriving who are impoverished with families

Do you know what's really funny. You wouldn't even live here even if you were given the chance. It's a shit hole. A few years ago somebody put a brick through my neighbours window. I often go to sleep listening to people screaming and fighting.
I'm paying a low rent to live in hell. You really want to swap??

Exactly the reason I wanted chose to give up my HA house.

But how would you feel if you were trying to get away from your abusive relationship and instead of waiting 3 months for a property you had to wait years while thousands of people live in houses like both of our neighbours?

I can't see who has said that council rents are too low but that is a load of bollocks. The social housing shortage has been caused by maggie and that 'right to buy' idea.

I suppose though your parents would have been able to buy the house at a reasonable price though and then buy into the private market. I used to work with people who boasted about how they had bought their council houses and sold them for a killing. I think some tennants did very well out of this.

I am not implying your parents are like this.

also I really wish they government would crack down on subletting and prosecute those who are doing this. sometimes the people sublet their council house and buy a property. how can this be right?

Thank you usual suspect - as usual the bastard Tories have made a magnificent job of turning people against one another. The worthy and unworthy poor - I do wonder how many more ways they can spin the same old cock to us. That shiny bastard makes me puke in my mouth.

And how exactly to you propose to control private rents then OP? Does the level go up when the interest rates rise for the Landlords paying mortgages? How will there be any private landlords if there is no profit in it? Are we meant to do it for the love of it??? For goodness sakes think it through. It is a free market, rent control, down to the levels you are talking about makes it completely impossible for anyone to let properties.

This thread is all upside down. The problem isn't 'reduced rents' for Social Housing. It's uncontrolled rent in private lets.

The home ownership culture came in because Maggie told everyone they had a right to own a home. A few years later, everyone sleep walks into the idea that they should own a home.

I watch my parents struggle to keep a roof over their heads. They were in social housing, then bought under RTB, then moved to better private housing in order to give their children the best start. They have suffered so much to try and keep their house despite multiple redundancies, sickeness and poverty. They'll lose it eventually. It will kill my Father.

I WISH they hadn't been sold the myth of owning their own home. All they've done is rented from a mortgage company .

We rent privately at the moment; we are just about to move to a LA house. We are so grateful. DD1 has SN. The house we are in is unsuitable now and there is no way a private landlord would let us make the adaptations to make it safe for her, let alone having to move on every 6 months, potentially.

Oldlady, she doesn't need to go into a care home. And their shutting all the care homes down.

He has indeed usualsuspect.

What difference do you think it will make to you if social housing costs are suddenly doubled? Will you miraculously become better off? No.

It's all very dog in a manger, isn't it?

It is funny , no one gave a shit about council house rents until the recession hit
now all of a sudden people are wailing its not fair

Shiney Dave has done a good job on you lot

But if someone needs to go into a care home from a council house, they lose the council house.

Do you know what's really funny. You wouldn't even live here even if you were given the chance. It's a shit hole. A few years ago somebody put a brick through my neighbours window. I often go to sleep listening to people screaming and fighting.
I'm paying a low rent to live in hell. You really want to swap??

Well if you need to blame someone blame Margaret Thatcher for selling all the council houses

And what would you do with her once she's been chucked out of her home??? Cardboard box in a door way?

So if the elderly woman/couple have worked hard and paid rent for 40 odd years , that counts for nothing?

So you want the elderly to solve the housing crisis do you?

What if it was your grandma /elderly mother would you be happy then ?

No thought not

There is actually a shortage of smaller homes though in many parts of the country. Wqanting to move poeple on is all well and good, but there are more family homesthan one bed flats and bungalows. As far as Alzheimer's goes there is good evidence to show if and when you move someone they have a rapid decline - just saying.

I don't think the problem is secure tenancy (speaking as someone who has rented private, bought on a mortgage and is now renting from the LA). I think there is a major problem with low income households being expected to pay the over inflated mortgages of their LL with no sense of security or stability. That is the real scandle, why don't we stop the race to the bottom in this country and start advocating all people have a decent standard of living? What's wrong with wanting better for everyone - it's not even about spending more money, just force current LL's to take on a bit more responsibility for their tenants and share the burden between LL and tenant.

Why don't you fight against the private rental landlords who are charging such ridiculous rents? Why not lobby the government to act and do something to help private tenants?

Is it because it's easier to pick on the elderly?

There is a huge problem when someone working full time can't earn enough to survive.

Tackle this. Don't take it out on social tenants.

Social housing rent is not too low , private rents are too high , the private rental market needs to change

and they are not just houses they are homes , council house envy the old MN favorite

People live in council houses , just like you ,not some bloody alien species

But anyway, I think there need to be more. It used to be the case that it was not uncommon for people on middle incomes to be able to access social housing. I'm not poor but would love it to be like that.