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Does anyone elsee agree with the benefit cuts?

211 replies

mrsruffallo · 27/01/2012 13:07

Because I do. They make sense to me. Reward the workers, esp. those in low paid employment, and make it harder to be better off unemployed than working. If ConDem also taxed the rich in an appropriate mnner, I would be very happy.

OP posts:
Hullygully · 27/01/2012 15:35

It's funny, isn't it cos you read stuff like the stuff about the dla, and that little phrase pops in to your head all unbidden

THICK AS SHIT

yellowraincoat · 27/01/2012 15:34

The problem is the lack of council housing. To me, that's really the crux of the problem. That's why benefits cost a lot, because rents (particularly in London) are artificially high. Landlords push them up because they know the government will have to pay them.

Our flat, for example, tiny, one bedroom, in the basement, zone 2, not a scabby area, not particularly lovely either is £1000 a month. That's £12000 a year. Just on rent. So if you have kids, imagine how much your HB is.

People who live outside London don't seem to understand that capping benefits at 26K is just not going to work. These people aren't exactly throwing money around - it is bloody hard to survive here on that money.

BarfAndHeave · 27/01/2012 15:34

I'm sorry, but before I can accept your MLM (myths, lies and misconceptions) application, you need to complete the attached 40 page form and include evidence including your yearly subscription to the Daily Mail Grin

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:34

DLA IS NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:34

DLA IS NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:34

DLA IS NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:34

DLA IS NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT

Fo0ffyShmo0ffer · 27/01/2012 15:33

You know my DH receives DLA and I was under the impression he worked. I'm now wondering where he goes from 7 till 7 every day. Confused

KatieMiddleton · 27/01/2012 15:33

How marvellous that you thought we'd be interested in enough in your opinion OP to start an entire thread about it.

Here's my response for you: That's nice dear.

Hullygully · 27/01/2012 15:32

Now look you lot, will you please stop countering misconceptions, lies and myths. It's very annoying to those of us who wish to maintain our prejudices intact so we can feel virtuous while hating and blaming.

Thank you.

worzelswife · 27/01/2012 15:31

Also us disabled people look a bit funny, or we do in the minds of some. You know, we dribble and our eyes roll and we might just come up and hug you inapprorpiately or something.
Rolls eyes.

BarfAndHeave · 27/01/2012 15:31

I know its been said before, but has anyone pointed out that DLA is not an out of work benefit and that its only paid to people who have a disbility and are able to evidence that disability in a detailed way

No?

Oh well let me try that one again. Ahem DLA is not an out of work benefit.

BarfAndHeave · 27/01/2012 15:29

mrsruffalo

DLA is not an out of work benefit.

I get it and I work full time and pay substantial amounts of tax each month.

I get it to cover all of the additional expenses I have with a child with special needs.

You can't "go onto DLA" as its easier. To get DLA you need to complete a 40 page form and send in reams of evidence including reports by medial specialists and a whole range of other information about your disability, your treatment and how it impacts your life.

Just to repeat DLA is NOT an out of work benefit

Ithankyou.

Fo0ffyShmo0ffer · 27/01/2012 15:28

Hang on.
I can't c+p but have I got this right?

  1. people get DLA for minor ailments? (no they don't)
  2. people with Mental Health problems shouldn't receive DLA? (whoa there )
  3. the breed of dog you own is indicative of being a member of the "underclass"?

Gosh.

Hmm enlightening.

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:28

molepom imo it is because picking on people who quite often don't have a voice, is the easy .

Mrsgradgrind · 27/01/2012 15:26

Op I take it you're a health professional given your ability to differentiate between mental health and other health problems? Do you have a list of mental health conditions that wouldn't qualify, or would it be all of them? And what about the learning disabled, where would they fit in?
Hope you never lose your job

molepom · 27/01/2012 15:25

Here we go again.

Firstly, Brad, I didnt say anything about a magic money tree, read the posts properly and quote accordingly.

As for everyone else, Why does every single benefit thread turn into one that bashes the DLA? Why not long term JSA - where these claims are most likely to be the ones that are being falsly claimed and taken advantage of?

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:24

op please have a look at this thread

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:23

I pushed dd onto dla. in her wheelchair,
omg the ignorance shown by the op on this thread is mind blowing

AmberLeaf · 27/01/2012 15:22

As for the DLA I think that refoems are needed. There are certain long term disabilities that need long term financial support, but there are so many claiming this because they were pushed onto it instead of uincome support to mka ethe unemployment fugures look better and are still on it for minor ailments I am also not sure if people with mentaal health issues need the amount of money paid out to them by the DLA

Note to mrsruffalo

If you're going to start a thread about something please ensure you know what the fuck you are talking about-as you clearly dont.

Im tired of explaining it to idiots, so please go off and google exactly what DLA is and who is entitled to claim it.

Sevenfold · 27/01/2012 15:20

op so you want people like my severely disabled dd to end up in povety.
cheersfor that

worzelswife · 27/01/2012 15:18

mrs ruffallo you wrote 'Working, even on a part time basis, would help a lot of those on the DLA but the benefits they receive cannot be matched by a low wage'. I'm sure you don't mean to make me bang my head against the wall, but have you not read ANYWHERE in the last week that DLA is NOT AN OUT OF WORK BENEFIT? It's been written about a hundred times here and there. DLA in fact helps many people TO work.

Screams. Self-combusts.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/01/2012 15:17

thought i'd take a turn at saying that for a change

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/01/2012 15:17

you can work while on DLA

bradbourne · 27/01/2012 15:12

If you are in the "underclass" and are at the benefits cap threshold (£26k)... how are you ever going to get away from that? You would need a £35k salary just to break even and so it would be a perfectly rational decision not to work. How many people in the "underclass" are in positions to gain the type of jobs that pay in excess of £35k? Few, if any, I would imagine.