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The "Down with this sort of thing" picket. There is a burger van and you can wear your donkey jacket and fingerless gloves

784 replies

KatieMiddleton · 24/01/2012 10:50

Fed up of the cuts? Fed up of the mislead bigotry? This is your sanctuary. Unwind. Vent. Pop over to the frothers thread if you feel like getting organised and doing some proactive stuff or just chill out with a cup of builders tea in a polystyrene cup.

Welcome.

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ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 10:27

Oh I hid the reality check one.

Peachy · 26/01/2012 10:25

Er I just walked away after having a massive go

I did restrain myselff rom wishing them karma though so you know- did OK Winkf

(It's the reality check thread)

deffo time to hide it LMFAO

Peachy · 26/01/2012 10:21

I agree Shirl

one am one also gone nasty so walking away from that as well

ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 10:13

"This is amazing, explains Tory twattery in such a simple way"

That thread - total lies but as it's slipping down the active list I think it's best to leave it alone.

ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 10:09

NTA's were just as I imagined them to be.

Peachy - HA! Unreal - I'm glad I'm not a Somalian orphan as well. I should stop moaning about xh not paying me any child support because I'm not a somalian orphan.

STFU tactic going on there - you should say so as well - that comparing one set of problems to another worse set of problems is just a way of stifling reasonable discourse.

Peachy · 26/01/2012 10:03

Which threaad Shirley?

Peachy · 26/01/2012 10:02

Apparently I am lucky coz I am not a Somalian orphan.

Well, yes that is true I guess.

Sorry boys will cease fighting for you, could be worse, you could be orphans you know.

LMFAO

KatieMiddleton · 26/01/2012 10:02

Getting back to important matters, Shirl, how was the NTAs?

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KatieMiddleton · 26/01/2012 09:58

There is one person who has posted on the thread directly to Hully. I admire her courage (most bleating is from names I don't recognise) even if I think she is very wrong.

Maryz I couldn't agree more able the stifling on reasonable discussion. It is right that people say "on the face of this looks like a good/bad thing for xyz reasons. Is there more to it/where can I find out more?" but the hijacking by the militant nutters and the haterz is not helpful.

Some of the supposedly serious posts are so extreme and posted by new names that I can only think they are being deliberately provocative which is trolling.

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Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:57

you have to

ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 09:56

Ugh and I just looked at a thread where smallwhitecat is telling blatant LIES about the reaction to the loon who wanted institutions. She said that there were loads of jokes after she had said it. I've gone back and looked and there is not a SINGLE joke - just lots of sharing of personal experiences, horror and shock.

I so want to call her on it.

Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:52

Quite, Mary. I did point that out.

Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:51

Isn't it depressing that personal experience is all that makes people think?

I always remember my dear mother's rabid support of the police, while the Sus Laws were going great guns, the miners were being pulverised, Blair Peach etc etc, and then one day she was stopped in a tiny country lane for being five mph over the speed limit...and the policeman was rude and brusque to her!

Totally changed her whole outlook.

Maryz · 26/01/2012 09:50

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Peachy · 26/01/2012 09:48

Bitchplopping stats pointless, they ignore actual proper arguments

Peachy · 26/01/2012 09:47

Yay Hully for your ds!

My boys learning same stuff LOL; despite his AS ds1 is already his Base rep on school council (even though he is the youngest and it serves kids aged 11 - 18); he would make a fine politician and definitely NOT a blue one.

I don't think it is brainwashing; I was out doing Lib Dem stuff younger than he is for my Dad, yet changed direction (mind, dad followed me LOL!) just Training Wink

Peachy · 26/01/2012 09:45

Katie exactly.

And if any of them thinks 'this won't affect me' you wait until they try and get an appt at the hospital if there is a low income estate within the entire catchment area and an affluent county bordering their at all....

My friends here who think they all 'deserve it' (I say friends but YKWIM; anyone who ahs seen my facebook page would know this simply would not work for me LMAO) but have failed to cotton on that their services are sahred with Europe's largest council estate....

All I can say is that there are some very dim people in some very shaky ivory towers right now!

Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:43

My ds (14) is battling on FB, bless. He came in the other day all outraged and showed me a Benefit Basher status and his put-down of it.

Chip block etc.

ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 09:43

Oh and at rope - look at that "lock em all up" loon from the other day! Shock

Peachy · 26/01/2012 09:41

Boys (well 2 / 4) off sick and I am rendered beyond caring; won't be on all day but will pop in and purt people down occasionally

Am expecting flack for my last post mind but tis the truth so they can Do One.

ShirleyForAllSeasons · 26/01/2012 09:41

They will be challenged by others Hully. Either that or maybe we should start bitchploppong the stats and then hiding the threads?

Grin
KatieMiddleton · 26/01/2012 09:41

Oh dear. I have heard a couple of people (including one on my sensible list Sad) making some real leaps using their creative reading skills. Things like "just because I agree about the cap doesn't mean you should start disembowelling threads". And I think 1. There is nothing on the joke thread about the cap. 2. If you are identifying with the group of anti-benefit extremists being mocked then you need to have a think about why that is.

On a more positive note, dh said something last night which made me think there is hope (he has been a bit "well there does need to be cuts and bankers do control the economy" of late). He said unprompted that the "just move" argument is about giving up. It's saying "I'm never going to get another job so I'm going to have to move to an area of deprivation with even less chance of a job and that creates a cycle of joblessness". He pointed out that people have a better chance of getting another job in an area where there are jobs and that no one who is made redundant plans to be out of work for long. He said more but i cant remember it all. I liked that he was thinking about the majority of out of work people who can and do want to work.

Quite often I've seen the "I'd put them all in the workhouse/have them doing community service type jobs... except the disabled. But everyone else is just lazy" comments and the "except the disabled" bit is used like a disclaimer to hold vile views about everyone else (I also reckon some of the views about which disabilities are rather dubious but I'm not about to poke them for more info). I had been afraid to ask dh what he thought in case I discovered I'd married one of those dreadful people and then had to run him through with the bread knife I think there's hope.

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Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:40

Actually, it might be good if they post unchallenged. Give em enough rope.

Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:40

If we have days off...they get to post unchallenged. Maybe we should have a rota..

Hullygully · 26/01/2012 09:39

Yep, don't post stuff that MATTERS to you, unless it's on a matey thread.