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Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 21:23

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

OP posts:
SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 08/12/2011 15:05

no one thinks they're right but single mums and their children have long been singled out as legitimate targets by politicians and the media so they know they can get away with it. and it is flagrant evidence of how much misogyny is brought to bear - women being charged for men's fecklessness.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock · 08/12/2011 14:54

Zoe Williams has responded on Twitter!

RatherBeOnThePiste · 08/12/2011 14:51

Checking in Brew

Excellent post Te, so poignant, so true

And excellent post too Hunty - How can anyone in their right mind think that these changes are the right way to move forward?
Madness.
Total madness.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock · 08/12/2011 14:48

The only thing that tops this on Google, when you put in "Too many cuts" is something on YouTube!

KateFrothers · 08/12/2011 14:38

I've just spotted that Frothers Twitter bird on the blog. hahahahahahahaha!

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 08/12/2011 14:29

good post hunty. i've only just gotten child maintenance sorted after over 4.5yrs of receiving nothing and now my case will be closed Confused ds's father refuses contact with ds or me and we have no contact details for him so a private agreement is literally impossible.

froth, froth, froth!

taxing kids - joy. punishing women for men's fecklessness - joy. profitting on what is essentially crime? hmm.

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 08/12/2011 14:21

good plan - will keep googling and clicking links.

KateFrothers · 08/12/2011 14:18

Oh yes I googled "too many cuts blog" and "too many cuts frothers" and we were top last night.

I'm trying to access the blog and FB etc via Google to keep it up. And while I'm here... just to mention toomanycuts.blogspot.com Grin

CardyMow · 08/12/2011 14:11

Ta MmeLindor - Not great at making it look pretty!

CardyMow · 08/12/2011 14:10

Oh - BTW - if you Google 'TooManyCuts Blog' ... THE BLOG IS THE TOP RESULT!!! YAY! We are now officially Google-able!

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 14:01

Aza
Great link, will tweet Zoe

This is the important bit

They present something jaw-dropping, encounter a wave of disgust, then row back from the brink of awfulness by 30% (George Osborne probably has a little rowing-backwards calculator, which multiplies the strength of the public backlash by the amount he doesn't care). We all throw back our heads in relief, yelling a lusty "Thank goodness! You only have to work two days a week when you have terminal cancer, and not five!", and "Children in poverty won't have to pay commission on their parental support!". The mood has been assuaged; the saving made. It's genius, really, because even as I'm describing it, that doesn't dent my susceptibility. I still think of the forestry U-turn as a victory for the little guy, rather than an outrageous idea, canned because it was stupid.

KateFrothers · 08/12/2011 13:59

Zoe is definitely someone we should be targeting. Along with Lucy Mangan, Suzanne Moore, Bidisha and lots of other good sorts.

Te your post made me cry a bit. It was beautifully written.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 13:58

Have made your links prettier, Hunty and put the quotes in a box.

Looks really good .

azazello · 08/12/2011 13:53

My lunch break has got a bit frothy today when I read this: www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/07/cutting-disabled-ill-people-benefits

Is Zoe a frother? She might be willing to retweet.

MmeLindor. · 08/12/2011 13:53

Hunty
Great post. Can you add one or two of your examples - where you worked out the financial implications for different situations.

Or in fact, why don't you post your blog as it is and do a separate one with all the calculations? They really helped me to actually understand the issue.

Grant has not replied to my last tweets. :(

ShirleyKnot · 08/12/2011 13:47

Broadband back up! Whoop!

Loved the latest blog post!

KateFrothers · 08/12/2011 13:37

Hello all

Sorry I've been bogged down in RL stuff and just catching up.

MmeL excellent work on Twitter giving Grant Shapps what for - well done!

Link dumpers some good stuff but please, a new tab to put it in. We need to be really, really easy to engage with and have easy stuff to download/access.

Urgent petition what is the urgent petition needed by the 12th please? Can you give me a full link?

I have drafted the mission statement and strategy and I'm just trying to catch up to make sure everything is covered and then will upload for critiquing. I've not name checked anyone (because I can't keep up and because you know who you are!!) so if your idea is not there or is condensed with someone else's please don't think it's because it wasn't brilliant. It will be because I have waded through 3000 ish posts and tweets and I have lost track.

If anyone could summarise the last 24 hours for me that would be super. Smile

Just to update on where I'm at (have been madly tweeting, FBing and posting on other threads!): I am planning an employment article but won't be until next week at earliest. Possibly following week because I need to fact check and verify because it will have my RL professional name on it However, I am planning to write a post about The View From My Ivory Tower. I am currently very lucky. We all have our health and only minor SN for DS (which hopefully cured by surgery next week), DH works in a good job and I have been able to study, we have enough to eat and our house is warm. But I have eyes and I can see others suffering. I also know my lifestyle is very, very fragile and could go at any time. Even with all that good fortune there are things that are starting to touch me and my life, even up in my Ivory Tower and I hope by writing about that we could prick the conscience of a few more people.

CardyMow · 08/12/2011 13:37

Have edited as Tianc suggested, and have included both the link to the MN thread, and a few of the posts about how it will affect people financially. Am going to try and get my head around getting it onto the Blog, as I had to have help last time. Blush.

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 08/12/2011 13:15
TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 08/12/2011 13:14

Yup - I like it. I can't see why you can't quote a few pieces from MN threads either, they are public domain. Though you could PM the author's or use posts from Frothers who you know won't mind.

Tianc · 08/12/2011 13:06

OK.

They have proposed that a percentage of between 15 and 20% is ADDED to the maintenance that the NRP pays. The CSA would then take their cut, taking it back to the current level of maintenance. THEN the CSA would take another percentage cut from the maintenance before they pay it out to the PWC. They have proposed that this will be between 7 and 12%.

[As a know-nothing I'm easily confused by this. If I've got it right, maybe try:]

"They have proposed that the NRP pays 15 to 20% more than current maintenance amounts, and that the CSA takes all of this increase. The CSA would also take an additional 7 to 12% from the original maintenance amount. So the NRP would pay 15 to 20% more, and the PWC would receive 7 to 12 % less."

What this means is that the Government is actively trying to DISSUADE PWC from using the CSA/CMEC to save money.
[deletion as unclear whether PWC or govt saving money, and you say it again more clearly in next sentence]

And rather than just linking to the MN threads, could you actually put your superb posts with all the figures in this blog posting? Lots of people just don't click through.

Otherwise, wow. Brilliant work.

Tianc · 08/12/2011 12:50

Just reading, Hunty, have Q in a mo about clarity...

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 12:50

Thanks for the emails, will look over it all properly later. Christ this is so awful. Grrrr.

lubeybaublely · 08/12/2011 12:47

Huntycat that's great, get it posted!

CardyMow · 08/12/2011 12:40

I have to go and get my lamb stew in the slow cooker, but will be back soon. If someone could let me know what they think of the post above before I put it on the blog, it would be much appreciated!

TIA.