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Too Many Cuts...come join the #Frothers and have your say

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 07/12/2011 21:23

This is the 3rd thread in a series.

It is for people who are horrified, frustrated and downright sad at the erosion of human rights with respect to how this country is being run, just now and in the recent past

it is apolitical in nature, but of course due to many recent initiatives by the recent govt, there will be rants against our current "leaders"

please join in

I shall post the link to the old threads, our "Too Many Cuts #Frothers" blog that is attracting a lot of widespread attention and a little bit of what we are about in a moment

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Peachy · 10/12/2011 10:27

Well done Hunty & co!

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 10/12/2011 09:42

It was a really well written article too, definitely got across what we're trying to say.

TeWiharaMeriKirihimete · 10/12/2011 09:41

We can ask them to print a correction but yes very annoying! The web version should get seen a lot at least - lots of people only really read papers online.

On which guardian has a Facebook app, if you read the article through your Facebook it will show up on your timeline.

TheMouseRanUpTheClock · 10/12/2011 09:39

Hunty, the online link is great, well done you!

Great that Zoe Williams did that link for the whole blog.

Oh that is a shame that the blog link is not available in the paper version, what a Sad error that was.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 10/12/2011 09:28

It's unfortunate that the paper version of Zoe William's article has been lifted straight from the online one - the link to 'this blog' has been completely left out, and it just says 'this blog' in normal type! So there's no way of realising that the article is referring to our blog, and no URL that people can use to get to the blog.

What a shame.

Meglet · 10/12/2011 08:47

I had a day off from frothing yesterday but will re-start today.

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 10/12/2011 08:39

I'm on Linked In - what do you want me to do?

Scarletbanner · 10/12/2011 04:02

Wow! That's brilliant, so brilliant. Froth, froth, froth enough and someone will listen. Hope that stat counter is back up. Grin

Great post Hunty, I had no idea either Sad

garlicnutcracker · 10/12/2011 02:17

Hunty, that's brilliant and very well deserved!

Thank you, Zoe Williams.

I realised tonight that we've completely missed out a huge network (Katie can you squeeze another network in your busy life? Your phone must be having a nervous breakdown Grin )

So. PLEASE will anybody who's got a LinkedIn profile hook up with Froth Ing on there?

You can start groups on LinkedIn, too. I'm just too frothed out to do it.
I'm sure that strait-laced, businesslike network will only be improved by a sudden influx of new, frothy members Wink

CardyMow · 10/12/2011 01:03

. The article links directly to my blog post and mentions the calculations I did. .

I'm glad that this will be wider knowledge now - as NONE of my RL friends that use the CSA had a clue that this was coming, until I told them.

We are starting to get our messages out there.

#frothers, getting noticed.

FuckYouGideon · 10/12/2011 00:30

Here is the Zoe Williams article - it is already on the Guardian website.

www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2011/dec/10/changes-to-child-maintenance

carernotasaint · 09/12/2011 23:39

We have made the Guardian tomorrow. Fucking brilliant. Well done to all of you who have spent loads of time tweeting and blogging. Fabulous!!!!!

Tianc · 09/12/2011 23:22

He isn't retiring till next summer. Plenty of time yet to suspend, investigate and sack...

ShirleyKnot · 09/12/2011 22:57

Mme or Kate! I'm away seeing rellies this weekend so on the iPad/phone. Could one of you post an update on the bottom of my HMRC post please about that fucker getting RETIREMENT rather than disciplinary action (and I'm sure a lovely fat pension)

Grr. SO EXCITED ABOUT THE GUARDIAN TOMORROW!

Keep on frothing!

MmeLindor. · 09/12/2011 22:53

Oh, sorry. I wasn't quite clear.

I do mean that we should have the data packed blog posts, interspersed with the real stories of posters.

ie. Shirley's CSA post, or the Are you sure you are all right, Jack post.

Where we link the dry data with the way in which this affects a real person.

Obviously not all posts will have both these aspects, but some will and going by the stats, these are the ones that have been passed on most and read most.

KateFrothers · 09/12/2011 22:48

I am dead proud of us you know Smile

KateFrothers · 09/12/2011 22:47

Blog here toomanycuts.blogspot.com

I also like the mix of posts at the moment. I like that you can dip into the blog and find something interesting and different to the last post and learn about stuff. That was the original idea - to share information and make the realities of living with the cuts real to ordinary, normal people.

I shall have a tinker with the foreword as promised and I will post up the draft strategy in a mo when on laptop (now i have it back after it got eaten Hmm).

lubeybaublely · 09/12/2011 22:39

I'm so tired i hallucinated a ginger cat on my sofa. Think I need an early night

Just one thing before I go - Yes, the 'earn more' threshold thing with Universal Credit is true - that's partly what I was on about while in an ALMIGHTY froth yesterday. I was worried I'd already be working more hours (50 to 60 as opposed to 40) per week only to have my dd's maintenance taken off me. I'm self employed so some weeks I work all day every day for bugger all, sometimes it's far more plentiful. But under the new threshold rules I'm going to have to give up weekends and work saturdays as well or be penalised. I already do sometimes, so it could mean basically never having a day off. Great.

garlicnutcracker · 09/12/2011 22:34

I like the way data-packed overviews on a particular issue are interspersed with personal views. It makes it more 'real' imo. If you split them up, it looks as if we separate facts from life as it is lived ... and isn't that what #frothers are all about, emphasising that we and our children are not just figures on a spreadsheet?

Have done new tab backgrounds to match Kate's black&white splash :) If anybody changes it (unless back to the blue one - already done those), I may have to kill them!

smallwhitecat · 09/12/2011 22:31

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CardyMow · 09/12/2011 22:28

Basically, yes, blackout. I have been frothing about this for a while - mostly because, while they have an exception for 'claimants with work-limiting health conditions' who 'may also only be expected to work part-time' - The word MAY is important, because it doesn't mean that they DEFINATELY won't be expected to seek full time work or face conditionality.

It ALSO means that the people who they deem to be 'claimants with work-limiting health conditions' will be those who passed an ATOS work-related activity test but have been changed from the WRAG of ESA to JSA because they had been in the WRAG for over a year.

So anyone like me, who doesn't PASS the work-related activity test, despite having a life-long, chronic health condition that DOES limit the work they can do, and or the hours - will still be subject to conditionality. Which means that if you don't earn over £212 a week - you will have your UC stopped. This will happen after 1 year on UC, apparently.

THIS is why groups that support people with disabilities are campaigning so hard against time-limiting ESA, and conditionality.

LoopyLoopsWoopDeWoops · 09/12/2011 22:27

Being lazy, can't be arsed to search, could someone link the blog please?

CardyMow · 09/12/2011 22:16

Buy.

CardyMow · 09/12/2011 22:15

Ooooh! I will have to avtually leave the house tomorrow and by the Guardian! I'm not going to be doing too much frothing tonight - I REALLY need an early night, to recoup maximum froth levels...

blackoutthexmaslights · 09/12/2011 21:56

The jist of it as far as I understand it is that people who are already desperately working hard and doing their bit for society have been told that simply isn?t enough. If your job doesn?t pay you enough (even if you do work full time) you?ll just have to get another one to top up your wages to meet the threshold.

i really do hope you are joking, but your not are you Sad

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