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Cap child tax credit after four children, says MP

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:39

here

One of nadine's friends!

I'm not surprised to see this from a conservative MP, as ever I think this sort of thing is a terrible idea - children don't choose to be born and by restricting benefits in this way you are punishing the children for something you disapprove of the parents doing. And as I understand it the number of people with no work ever and loads of children is actually very low? So this sort of policy doesn't actually save much money at all. Can't remember where I saw that though.

I am sure there will be some who disagree. I thought that people who post here might be interested anyway.

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Maisiethemorningsidecat · 18/11/2011 16:49

Well said Scarlett

scarlettsmummy2 · 18/11/2011 16:02

I just think it is wrong for people to have children they can not afford, and I am not at all happy that my tax would go to pay for them. If the living standards of a child are so poor that they are growing up in extreme poverty that a bit of tax credit is there only hope of not being neglected, why are they being allowed to remain there??

why is it the middle classes don't seem to have all these contraceptive failures that people living in poverty seem to???

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 18/11/2011 15:55

Oh well, in that case I'm happy for you to continue to fund adults who have chosen to have large families. Just count me out.

Personally we should we should probably look to helping people become less dependent on the welfare state, and taking responsibility for their actions rather than assuming the Govt (ie the taxpayer) will fund their lifestyle choices.

MotherPanda · 18/11/2011 15:54

This attitude could cause child poverty to rise - Not all babies are planned (remember most contraceptive is only 98% effective, so using the pill doesn't mean you wont have a baby!).

It's unreasonable to condemn the 5th child to a life of poverty and hardship.

I don't think there are that many people who would actually go through the effort of having children just to get tax credits,the sums really don't add up! However, I appreciate that perhaps people shouldn't plan children, expecting to be supported by the state - cutting benefits isn't the way to go about it though.

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:52

I don't have a problem with my taxes going to pay for childrens living standards maisie.

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:52

Can people confirm why they think this is a brilliant idea? What problem is it that you see, that you think this will solve? Given that it will not actually save much money from the benefit bill?

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Maisiethemorningsidecat · 18/11/2011 15:51

About ensuring that people who are working to pay for their children don't end up paying for your large family?

What would you do instead Sardine?

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:51

Do none of you worry about the effect this will have on the children in these families?

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:50

scarlett

It is too late to use contraception after the baby has been born and at the moment a lot of families who were working are losing their jobs.

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lisaro · 18/11/2011 15:50

I think it's a brilliant idea!

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SardineQueen · 18/11/2011 15:48

Maisie what would I do instead about what?

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scarlettsmummy2 · 18/11/2011 15:47

disagree. If you are going to be relying on tax credits to fund baby 5 you can't afford it. I can't afford a third baby, that is life, why should I found someone else to have five or more! Use contraception!

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 18/11/2011 15:40

What would you suggest instead?