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Temporary abolition of maternity leave being proposed by Cameron's strategy guru

65 replies

EightiesChick · 28/07/2011 10:41

I can't believe this is being put on the table. Very worrying - read about it here

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Indaba · 04/09/2011 22:36

Ephiny

I'm with you. I think its good to debate stuff. Wish we could have more proper debates rather than tabloid arguments.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/08/2011 15:02

Excellent, Tethers. "Legislate against knives and forks because someone on Jeremy Kyle said it would help".

tethersend · 01/08/2011 08:54

Steve Hilton policy generator

puzzlesum · 01/08/2011 08:48

Charlie Brooker's thoughts on Mr Hilton.

StealthPolarBear · 30/07/2011 17:04

How about we cut MP expenses and maybe review their gold plated pensions a bit?

Oh no cos that's just ridiculous.

claig · 30/07/2011 16:57

'How about reintroducing slavery for 9 months?'

Haven't we had enough of this blue sky thinking already?

jellybeans · 30/07/2011 11:51

I think maternity rights are much better than they used to be when i had my eldest and strongly believe they should stay as they are now with more generous leave. Back then it was only either 16 or 18 weeks. I have a feeling (no evidence to support it but just a gut feeling) that they will go back to this kind of leave rather than the 9 months/year that we have now probably with some 'we can't afford it' speil.

I did giggle at the poster who said the guy apouts out things like monkey tennis etc., reminded me of Alan partridge Grin

DizzyKipper · 29/07/2011 14:40

That is a deeply concerning article. Not for a moment because I actually believe they might try to do this, but because I am very wary they may try to weaken some maternity rights. Like some one said before, propose something utterly ridiculous, come out with a "compromise" and then act like they're being completely reasonable. Did anyone notice it also mentioning the suggestion to abolish consumer rights to help kick start the economy? Ditto the former sentiments.

Miggsie · 29/07/2011 14:32

How about reintroducing slavery for 9 months? That would really help small businesses as well.

aliceliddell · 29/07/2011 14:24

The background music will have the drip drip effect of making this madness seem ordinary.

aliceliddell · 29/07/2011 14:20

There we were thinking the govt reimbursed co's for mat. pay. And thinking we had 'rights'. Remember them? Used to be A Good Thing.

justcross · 29/07/2011 14:06

Belledame...you clearly didn't read it with your calm head on. Please all stop ranting. No-one is suggesting that women shouldn't work...and if they did they'd be perfectly entitled to their opinion, this is still a free country, and just because you don't happen to agree with an opinion, does not make it taboo. Age employment is so high precisely because of the maternity/paternity laws...it doesn't mean they don't care, it just means for a small/medium sized business losing a memeber of staff that you have to repalce and still pay for is a complete nightmare, and in this climate, for many companies nigh on impossible. We cannot just blindly go on pretending that everything can be sorted by putting huge pressure on companies.....and I'm NOT talking about massive companies and banks etc, I'm talking about the every day shop-keeper, restaurateur, small factories...unless you understand what goes on in these hard-working, understaffed companies, you really cannot comment.

smallwhitecat · 28/07/2011 21:40

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ttosca · 28/07/2011 18:34

Typical Tory trash. If they had their way, we really would all be living in Victorian conditions.

The bit about abolishing consumer rights is revealing, though. It further highlights the blind ideological nature of this government: Just like it is a right-wing mantra that public services are bad, and privitisation good, and so they drastically cut public spending, the opposite of what you're supposed to do during a recession, right-wing ideology also says that consumer protections are 'red tape' and harm business.

In reality, consumer protections are needed not just because it's a left wing ideal and not just because it is the right thing to do (although that is reason enough), but because they allow markets to flourish and increase consumer confidence in trade. Without them, consumers will spend less, more fraud will occur, and there will be more litigation.

It's just more short-sighted ideological nonsense of the type we've seen over and over with this government. They keep on trying to cut money where the net benefit in doing so is negative. That is, although they may save money in the short term by spending less, it will cost them more money in the long run.

bonkers20 · 28/07/2011 16:39

The articles reporting this seem to be using this (and other marvellous ideas) as examples of his general idiocy!

headfairy · 28/07/2011 16:23

:o at everyone getting so upset about this... seriously it won't happen. This government is on far to slim a majority (sorry, did I say majority... I meant minority) to risk losing even one voter. If they even touch maternity rights I say roll on 2015. Bring it on Camo, lets see you wriggle out of that one !

YaMaYaMa · 28/07/2011 16:20

I think it says everything about this shitty governement that people will read the thread title and nobody will be remotely surprised by it.

Seriously, this government hates women. If I'd have voted LibDem like I considered doing I'd be living in a permanet state of apoplectic rage.

gallicgirl · 28/07/2011 16:19

Yup.

They can have 6 weeks leave for a vaginal birth and 9 weeks for a c-section but I'm fairly sure they don't get paid anything.

There was a list recently of maternity rights across the world and my American friends were shocked to see the US had pretty much the worst maternity rights in the world. The land of the brave and the free had failed women while 3rd world countries were doing a better job.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 28/07/2011 16:15

Fucking RIGHT it won't happen.

But I might be wrong, doesn't America have NO statutory paid maternity leave at all?

jugglingwiththreeshoes · 28/07/2011 16:07

WTF ! Hmm

CogitoErgoSometimes · 28/07/2011 16:02

It wouldn't happen mostly because it would be political suicide but also because we're hooked up to EU law on working practices. That's where most of the initiatives have originated for the last 10 or 20 years. There's a big 'how can we get rid of red-tape' exercise going on to try to give business a shot in the arm and whilst 'getting rid of maternity leave' isn't going to cut it as a general measure, there may end up being some give and take in the case of very small businesses for whom it is a serious enough problem that they often don't employ young women, just in case.

headfairy · 28/07/2011 15:57

:o quenelle

gallicgirl · 28/07/2011 15:55

Hmmm I seem to recall reading an article a while back about the evolution of maternity rights and IIRC they took a backwards step while Thatcher was in power. Thatcherite policies weren't particularly good for women either.

Why can't the idiots realise that the reason the economy is sluggish is because nobody is spending money because they've either been made redundant or are worried about being made redundant. Also banks won't lend money to businesses to expand because of fears about government policy.

I fail to see how the suspension of consumer rights will aid the economy. Surely that's just a licence to make cheap shoddy goods that will injure people. In fact, I bet that will just promote the import of cheap shoddy goods and reduce British manufacturing even further.

Quenelle · 28/07/2011 15:53

I have visions of Steve Hilton skipping around the office barefoot spouting the first thing that comes into his head:

  1. Monkey Tennis
  2. Abolish Maternity Rights
  3. Youth Hostelling with Chris Eubank
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