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Weirdest political interview ever?

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longfingernails · 30/06/2011 22:35

Red Ed says exactly the same sentence, in exactly the same words, in exactly the same manner, about 5 or 6 times.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13971770

It is downright creepy.

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chipstick10 · 19/07/2011 12:08

Another wierd one was a few sundays ago Andrew (impartial)Marr asking Desperate Ed why he went to the Murdoch party three weeks previously. Desperate Ed replied he wished he hadnt. Andrew (impartial)Marr implied that Ed had had no choice because he was bullied into it. Confused. Desperate Ed didnt want to go, he has integrity but the nasty old Tories well they wanted to be there. Andrew Marr is quite outrageous, and yet we have to keep looking at sky news to see how impartial they are being.

danniclare · 18/07/2011 21:30

There are people I have known for years who use the same phrases time and time again. They have a very limited stock of metaphors and terms, and have such limited abilities and experience that if they talk for any length of time end up repeating themselves. Some have very limited intellect disgused by good education. Others are able to grow out of it if they gain experience.

catinthehat2 · 03/07/2011 20:10

The interviewer speaks - he was clearly freaked out by Ed & minders.

complimentary · 03/07/2011 13:12

LFN. Why have Ed Miliband as leader if most voters look at him and think "no thanks". It beggars belief that they would want to keep a liability. He although is a treasure/prize for Cameron. When Cameron observes Ed's articulation, his bulging eyes, his wooden manner, he must think, "lovely no competition here!". Red Ed... what a godsend!Grin

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Carminagetsprimal · 02/07/2011 22:26

Agree he wasn't leader material - neither was William Hague. But look at them now.
They're both brilliant politicians and DC knows it. You're only as good as the people around you & he'll happily play bland leader whilst they get the job done.

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 22:09

Oh - I adore IDS. He is principled, he is very right-wing, and he has shown more imagination on welfare - putting compassionate Conservatism into action - than legions of previous Work and Pensions Secretaries.

But he was totally unsuited to be leader. The same way, I adore what George Osborne is doing with the economy, but he would be a disaster as PM.

Red Ed was elected on the union vote, in spite of the MPs and party members rightly rejecting him - and this interview shows quite clearly that the MPs judgment was entirely right. I feel a bit sorry for the Labour MPs, who wanted someone else, and are now stuck with a loser.

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Carminagetsprimal · 02/07/2011 22:01

Tory politicians made it quite clear they wanted IDS in the coalition cabinet - he's old school right-wing Tory and DC agreed - I admire the Tories, they have the Ken Clarkes who'll say it's ok to stab a burglar - and of course IDS.
Labour haven't got a single politician with balls.

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 21:51

complimentary The best part is, as we saw with Gordon Brown, that Labour finds it impossible to get rid of their duds.

The Tories decapitated IDS in pretty short order when it became obvious he was out of his depth. The Lib Dems cheerily stuck the knife into Charles Kennedy and Ming Campbell. But Labour? No, they just can't do it.

They are stuck with this weirdo.

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complimentary · 02/07/2011 21:43

I'm very pleased that Ed is leader of the Labour Party, as he is a right liability and weird to boot. With him as leader, the party will not see power for sometime to come. If I voted Labour or were a party member, which I'm not, I would be most upset to see this oddball as leader! Grin

ilovemydogandMrObama · 02/07/2011 21:34

longfingernails didn't see your earlier post. What makes you say that he is in thrall to the unions? I haven't ever heard any pro union statement out of his mouth ever...

ilovemydogandMrObama · 02/07/2011 21:32

At local level, at least where I am, we are supporting the teachers and ignoring Ed Miliband

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 21:29

Well, what are you going to do about it? Vote Green? Somehow, I don't think so.

Frankly, the Tories need to seize this opportunity. They need to stick to their stated position entirely, both for economic reasons, but also for political ones.

The new pension scheme proposed by Lord Hutton is still far too generous to the unions - they should have moved to an entirely defined contribution scheme in my view - but it is at least a step in the right direction.

But to see Red Ed squirming like that, trying to sit on the fence, as Gove and the government continue their sterling work effectively dismantling the unions, is wonderful to behold.

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Carminagetsprimal · 02/07/2011 21:11

The unions own him LFN -

He said he wanted labour to get back to their roots - he should have backed the teachers. Labour needs a brave strong leader - they haven't got one.

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 21:00

InnocentRedhead Why - what could possibly make you think that the strikes are wrong when negotiations are still ongoing, that the government has acted in a reckless and provocative manner, and that both sides should put aside the rhetoric and get round the negotiating table?

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 20:58

He is deeply in thrall to the unions.

He has to say strikes are wrong - he would be completely politically dead if he said otherwise - but we all know he would love to be out there on the picket lines if he could. Even his closest minions, Peter Hain and Sadiq Khan, couldn't bring themselves to repeat his words.

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InnocentRedhead · 02/07/2011 20:52

(pressed it too soon)

There is no words... Except 'put aside the rhetoric' :o Oh dear

InnocentRedhead · 02/07/2011 20:51

There is no words.

Carminagetsprimal · 02/07/2011 20:46

How can the Labour leader not support the unions? - that's where they're going wrong.

The labour party was born out of the unions fgs.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 02/07/2011 20:40

Can we please nail a myth. Ed Miliband is not a supporter of the unions. If you look at his actions, he is actually quite anti union, but only realized this after he got the union vote case to make him leader.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the interview. Truly truly awful.

what saddens me is that there is not an effective opposition in this country, although it could be argued that the media (and possible the judiciary) are wearing the hat of HM Opposition.

But it isn't the Labor party....

Carminagetsprimal · 02/07/2011 20:34

He's history - he wouldn't support the teachers strike even though the unions backed him for leader - without the unions he'd have got nowhere.

The rat.

catinthehat2 · 02/07/2011 20:29

real, I think it freaked out the interviewer a bit as well
he was just cracking out the soundbite so that whatever question was chosen for telly , he would always produce the answer with the same 3 or 4 sections
I think the idea behind putting thisup in YOutube is to have him lose even more credibility

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longfingernails · 02/07/2011 20:27

It has now gone viral in America too, even left-wing American blogs are openly mocking Red Ed:

motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/07/ed-miliband-demonstrates-how-stay-message

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/01/ed-miliband-british-labour-party-politician-robot-like-interview-_n_888598.html

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Georgimama · 02/07/2011 20:05

I was going to post this - is this interview really real? Has it honestly not been edited?

niceguy2 · 02/07/2011 11:40

Basically Red Ed is snookered on this issue so the only thing he can do is repeat the same lines his handlers have deemed vague enough not to upset too many people but at the same time sound like he's actually said something.

If he comes out too much against the strikes then he alienates his union masters whom at the end of the day own the Labour party.

If he comes out too much in favour of the strikes then he will alienate most of the population whom will have to pay extra taxes to fund these pensions whilst seeing their own meagre pensions continually be eroded.

He's also a bit snookered since Lord Hutton is one of his old cabinet chums and it's his recommendations which the government are trying to push through.

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