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The Grauniad seems to be dying - hurrah!

260 replies

longfingernails · 17/06/2011 23:39

I doubt Polly will be selling her Tuscan villa any time soon, but it will be a wonderful day when the BBC's in-house journal gets what it deserves.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/8580566/Job-cull-looms-at-The-Guardian.html

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claig · 22/06/2011 12:41

'My dh is a GP and he says one of his worst nightmares is someone coming in with a bunch of cuttings from the DM'

are his nightmares due to his inability to counter the facts in the Daily Mail cuttings? Wink

Was he an advocate of the swine flu pandemic? Were his nightmares due to worried patients carrying Daily Mail cuttings?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242147/The-false-pandemic-Drug-firms-cashed-scare-swine-flu-claims-Euro-health-chief.html

weegiemum · 22/06/2011 12:30

My dh is a GP and he says one of his worst nightmares is someone coming in with a bunch of cuttings from the DM. Their medical info is, in his words "scaremongering shite".

complimentary · 22/06/2011 12:26

How can Claig be a one off? When the Mail has 2.5 million readers a day?(More like the views of the majority) As opposed to Guardians 175.000? She is a 'one -off' with here wit and charm perhaps. A bit like me really Grin

complimentary · 22/06/2011 12:17

Claig. 'A Sea of progressive porkies' More like a 'few' progressive porkers, the Guardian readers!

claig · 22/06/2011 11:20

It comes as no surpise that the Daily Mail is also a one-off; standing alone against a murky sea of progressive porkies and assorted lies.

allegrageller · 22/06/2011 09:33

you'll get used to Claig, notevenamousie...she is a bit of a one-off

notevenamousie · 22/06/2011 09:21

the Daily Mail is one of the world's greatest newspapers

Erm, pardon??? Someone exists who chooses to read the Daily Wail and is capable of posting that whole sentence here??? I am falling over with shock!

Threadworm8 · 22/06/2011 09:10

Is it really true that the Guardian is struggling seriously -- I mean, more than the whole industry is struggling in the face of the online onslaught?

I'm feeling guilty now that I have stopped buying the print version. I wouldn't mind paying a bit for its online content. Not sure why so many webistas seem to think that payed-for expert journalism online is a bad thing. We will all lose (are already losing) from the imability of the press to afford enough good journalism.

moondog · 22/06/2011 09:06

Gosh, that's brightened my day!
I hope she finished paying for her conservatory.

allegrageller · 22/06/2011 09:04

btw does anyone have any information on whether the Times online pay-per-view system is working out? I would hate to see the Grauniad disappear behind a paywall, but if that is what they have to do to survive so be it.

jackstarb · 21/06/2011 22:45

Edam - did you see my link earlier in the thread. It includes some ideas for making money from digital media (might be in the follow on comments).

One idea is fully utilising the value of the Guardian brand. Which roughly translates as getting more money from it's customers. This can be either directly (getting customers to pay for extra's) or indirectly (selling info about valuable customers to third parties).

But, both of these methods would require a cultural shift for the Guardian.

edam · 21/06/2011 22:29

Maybe it's because the Guardian poured so much money into digital which isn't showing a return. And their answer is to invest even more into digital... someone needs to come up with a way to make money out of news online. Someone has to pay for journalists to go and do journalism. Of whatever political persuasion. Or we will all lose out. (Disclaimer - I am a journalist. And I have written for titles on either end of the political spectrum.)

Ormirian · 21/06/2011 13:11
Ormirian · 21/06/2011 13:10

Oh you still her lfn. We missed you Hmm

Blackduck · 21/06/2011 13:06

Tory Central office if you ask me Complimentary.....

Gooseberrybushes · 20/06/2011 23:15

I think it's a tragedy the Guardian going over. If it is. Anybody who really thinks this is great because now there'll be nothing to challenge the might of the right wing press has really gone off on one.

claig · 20/06/2011 22:38

'you truly are wasted on here'

How dare you! I've only had one drink. Goodnight. Smile

complimentary · 20/06/2011 22:37

Yes Claig. "You are a beacon of hope in a dark murky sea, the light that enables one clearly to see" Great stuff, you truly are wasted on here! Grin night. night.

complimentary · 20/06/2011 22:33

BecauseImworthit. I don't sneer at that rag. The Guardian does all the sneering itself! At the working classes! They have been accused of sneering on countless occassions!
www.guardian.co.uk/media Goodnight all zzzzzzzzzzzzz

claig · 20/06/2011 22:24

It just came out naturally, no forethought involved at all. That's what reading the Mail does to you; it's positively Shakespearean.

complimentary · 20/06/2011 22:19

Gooseberrybushes. What loss?
Claig are you a poet and don't know it? That last post rhymed! Grin
Blackduck. The bot is called LFN.

claig · 20/06/2011 22:11

I do like to send it up a bit. It's not as great as all that, but it's damn close. Smile

claig · 20/06/2011 22:08

I don't work for the Daily Mail. I just think it is a great paper. Murdoch is not in charge of the Daily Mail. It is a beacon of hope in a murky sea, the light that enables one clearly to see.

allegrageller · 20/06/2011 21:36

another thing Claig. YOu can write and clearly have brains. WHAT IS WITH THE FLIPPING DAILY MAIL STUFF? REALLY WHAT?? Do you work for them, is that it? Is Murdoch putting bread on the Claig family table?

allegrageller · 20/06/2011 21:35

Oops. I was fooled by the eminent good sense of which you speak Claig, into thinking she was of my persuasion. I guess we all want to think the intelligent ones are on our side...