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The Grauniad seems to be dying - hurrah!

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longfingernails · 17/06/2011 23:39

I doubt Polly will be selling her Tuscan villa any time soon, but it will be a wonderful day when the BBC's in-house journal gets what it deserves.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/8580566/Job-cull-looms-at-The-Guardian.html

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claig · 25/06/2011 16:14

Apparently there is a pyramid stage, so it may be something to do with that.

claig · 25/06/2011 16:13

Just watching Glastonbury. You can't watch a band without seeing massive banners for Greenpeace and Wateraid. But that's to be expected, they want to get the message across to the young. But what is it with all these pyramid symbols on the BBC's coverage. The word Glastonbury has a pyramid instead of the letter 'A', and each new song title is displayed with pyramids to the left of it. What message are they trying to tell the young? Is it something progressive to do with that helluminati lot?

claig · 25/06/2011 14:05

And of course they have increased the foreign aid budget, while making cuts to the poor and disabled. They say they did good, but what were their motives?

claig · 25/06/2011 14:03

They took the people's tax money and bailed out the bankers, their bonuses to keep. They said there was no alternative, they did it for our own good. But what was their motive?

claig · 25/06/2011 13:51

They say they can't save our jobs and our industries, they say we are at the mercy of teh market. They say it is globalisation that they are powerless against. Do they speak the truth or do they speak with forked tongue? They say they really want to "save the planet". What's really in it for them? The real reason behind the veil of lies, may come as a very nasty surprise.

claig · 25/06/2011 13:35

Thye have spin doctors and sometimes they knowingly tell lies. Are their motives pure? They tell us they are "saving the planet" for all our futures, then they want more nuclear power stations and the nuclear waste will decay radioactively for many of our futures. They say GM food is a blessing. They don't tell us about the known side effects. They say they do good, they say they are pure. They say they are progressive. I say they tell lies.

claig · 25/06/2011 13:11

how do we know that much of the money may never be used to help humanity? Can we believe all we are told?

claig · 25/06/2011 13:09

Motive is crucially important, because it is what drives the action. Unless you understand the motive, you can't understand the purpose of the action. The Devil trumpets his own good deeds. He would do nothing else.

"All the ways of a man are clean in his own sight, But the Lord weighs the motives"

"I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds"

"He who has clean hands and a pure heart, Who has not lifted up his soul to falsehood, And has not sworn deceitfully. He shall receive a blessing from the LORD And righteousness from the God of his salvation"

To be philantrhropic is to love mankind. Big Brother said he loved you. The Man says he love you. But love is pure and the motive is good and even motiveless. It has no purpose.

How do we know what the real motive of those who wish to "save the planet" and "save the world" is? How do we know that it isn't part of an ulterior motive, that bodes no good to humanity. How do we know that there isn't something "in it for them", how do we know that much of the many may never be used to help people, or even that some of their help may not be help at all?

God knows their motive.

jackstarb · 25/06/2011 12:52

What do you make of this Save the Children response to the Bono criticism?

I'm in two minds. Whilst I think he appears to have disconnected his politics from his own lifestyle, if the article is right, he has achieved much for those in poverty.

Does the motive (and indeed lifestyle) matter - when good is achieved?

claig · 25/06/2011 12:46

Now I understand why the Daily Mail always stands up for the hard working nurses and van drivers at risk of being dismissed by their employers simply because of wishing to wear the symbol of the cross.

claig · 25/06/2011 12:43

I wonder why Christians are one of the progressives' targets?
What has the old lady who goes to Church on Sunday done that is so bad? I don't think Stalin liked her either.

complimentary · 25/06/2011 12:35

The Guardians Assistant Editor Michael White discussing media self censorship in March 2011, says 'I have always senses liberal middle class ill ease when going after stories about immigration legal or otherwise, about welfare fraud, or the less attractive habits of the working classes, which is more easily ignored altogether, toffs, including royal ones, Christians especially popes, goverments of Israel and US Republicans are more straight forwards targets'
wikipedia.org/wiki/ This says all I need to know about this shitty little paper!Grin

claig · 25/06/2011 12:19

paper that can stick it to the Man

claig · 25/06/2011 12:16

Does the man read the Guardian? He may well do, and I wouldn't be surprised if He writes for it too.

Is there not a paper who can stick it to the Man? Well, only the Daily Mail can.

complimentary · 25/06/2011 12:12

LOL. I hear there may be protests about Bono, as apparently the man who wishes to save Africa, does not wish to save Ireland. According to a news report on ITV the other night, he is avoiding paying tax in his homeland, and hides all of this dosh on an offshore Island, perhaps Jersey, can't remember. Anyway Bono wishes to squirrel away his cash. I would do some squirreling myself if I had any money!Grin

claig · 25/06/2011 12:06

Is the Man a progressive? Does He call everyone who disagrees with him regressive? The answer's yes. What are the Man's plans? It may be important to try and guess.

claig · 25/06/2011 12:03

Why spend all this money? Why do it? Is the Man philanthropic? Is the Man on the side of the people? Is he damn.

claig · 25/06/2011 11:49

It's propaganda. It's tried and tested. The Man laughs at the public as He manipulates them.

claig · 25/06/2011 11:47

'One of the Art Uncut team complained: "Political activism used to belong at Glastonbury. This was all going to be completely peaceful."

Unfortunately, the Art Uncut team member, was naive and didn't realise that only progressive political activism wa allowed.

moondog · 25/06/2011 11:46

I like your style Claig.
What intrigues me is that so few people get it.

How have we all become so frighteningly malleable?

claig · 25/06/2011 11:44

exactly, moondog. Use as many celebs as you can. Anything the young look up to and admire. Make it trendy, make it cool, make it hip, then they'll from the progressive glass start to sip.

claig · 25/06/2011 11:40

You don't want that sort of behaviour on worldwide TV, someone might open their eyes and see.

claig · 25/06/2011 11:39

If the pop goers start to ask questions, then

www.thefirstpost.co.uk/80824,people,news,glastonbury-guards-prick-u2-tax-protesters-balloon

moondog · 25/06/2011 11:39

'Get the politically naive younger pop fans, show them pictures of the polar bear'

Better still get them all to wear a plastic wristband stamped with picture of said polar bear having first run an 'awareness raising' campaign in which a 'supermodel' is photographed wearing said wristband and a very small pair of knickers.

claig · 25/06/2011 11:35

they're all

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