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Osborne backs Lagarde for IMF chief

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longfingernails · 21/05/2011 22:23

Christine Lagarde is a very accomplished and well-regarded economist - I am thrilled in our Chancellor's judgement. The only negative is that she is French - but she is an avowed Anglophile, so I think we can let that go :o

Just imagine the horror if Gordon Brown got his mitts anywhere near!

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edam · 23/05/2011 15:01

Oh, before the racing tip, he made some very un-prime ministerial comments about Brown. Ill-advised.

But yes, Brown made a heap of enemies on his way up. People are usually more forgiving once someone has stepped down, though.

jackstarb · 23/05/2011 13:44

Edam - I missed that bit, unless you mean the racing tip? It was a valid choice for Cameron not to support Brown - he would have looked a weak fool, if he had.

If Brown is interested in a top job in some global NGO - he needs to win around more than Cameron. He's better start with all the enemies he made in his own party and work up.

edam · 23/05/2011 13:34

jackstarb - Cameron and Osborne are indeed being spiteful - see Cameron's comments on the Today programme. It is one thing for them to decide not to back Brown - that's a valid choice although seems like petty revenge ? but it's quite another for the Prime Minister, FFS, to indulge in outbursts worthy of a stroppy teenager.

latitude · 23/05/2011 13:23

Brown had no chance because he was fiscally irresponsible during his time in office so he could hardly go round telling other countries to get their public finances in order considering his track record.

wordfactory · 23/05/2011 13:07

Oh God, GB never stood an earthly...

As a long standing member of the Labour party, my main critisism of GB was and remains his complete lack of acceptance of his own limitations.

Everyone has been saying that he wouldn't tsand a chance, yet he wouldn't listen. It has been the same all along. He won't accept criticism. He won't take advice.

jackstarb · 22/05/2011 15:57

"Of course the tories couldn't allow it as it would be very hard to reconcile with the myth they have so successfully sold in this country that the whole global financial crisis was Gordon's fault"

Really Paul? - I have never seen that 'myth' anywhere - and I've read my share of right wing press and blog posts.

Many blame Gordon Brown for making the UK economy vulnerable to a global recession - by not sufficiently regulating the banks, over-encouraging immigration, and borrowing through an economic boom.

Lol - at the idea of Cameron supporting Gordon Brown for the IMF job. I can't think of one reason he would, especially as most of his narrative is about cleaning up the economic mess Brown left us in.

edam - Cameron's not being spiteful - he's being rational.

inappa · 22/05/2011 11:27

I don't know really, I don't think he is the right man for the IMF to be honest. The IMF warned him about the countrys fiscal position and direction in 2004 and he totally ignored them and the fiscal situation he left although not as bad as some make out, it was pretty dire.

edam · 22/05/2011 11:19

They would have backed him (apart from countries who have their own candidates) and were ready to back him until our present government launched a spiteful, petty outburst against him. It's not the done thing to back someone who isn't supported by their own government.

Paul's right, GB is respected across the world for his leadership during the crisis, which encouraged leaders not to get into the sort protectionism that was so devastating during the last crash. The other candidates for the top job were all key players in the run up to the crisis as well - so the myth that Gordon Brown is somehow uniquely tarnished by having been in charge during the boom years is clearly rubbish.

I'm not personally bothered whether GB gets the job or not, and I have plenty of criticisms of him. But some of the accusations against him in connection with this role are just unfair and untrue.

inappa · 22/05/2011 10:34

"Every government in the world other than ours would support him: the US, Europe and the developing world"

I don't think a single Government has backed him for the job. Its almost a certainity that Lagarde will get it.

Paul88 · 22/05/2011 10:32

Gordon Brown would be excellent at the IMF.

Every government in the world other than ours would support him: the US, Europe and the developing world.

Of course the tories couldn't allow it as it would be very hard to reconcile with the myth they have so successfully sold in this country that the whole global financial crisis was Gordon's fault - when in fact the work he did when it broke was and still is much respected the world over.

claig · 22/05/2011 07:51

Progressive? - I think that goes without saying. While that is close to "big ninny", it is not quite the same.

claig · 22/05/2011 07:32

Misguided? - absolutely
Deluded? - Very possibly
Out of his depth? - most certainly

Big ninny? - debatable and probably a step too far. It is not evidence-based like the previous 3 descriptions.

claig · 22/05/2011 07:11

'I mean jesus, compare GB to GO and you've got to snort..........One political heavyweight and one big ninny.......'

I was never a fan of Gordon Brown, but I think describing him as a ninny is going too far.

hudspur · 22/05/2011 00:03

I agree and would be surprised if Lagarde didn't get it

longfingernails · 21/05/2011 23:48

Yes, but none of the big developing countries can agree on a single candidate. Lagarde doesn't have many enemies, as far as I can tell, except back in France - the socialists are predictably trying to smear her about some decision she made about resolving a socialist Mitterand-era scandal - and I am fairly confident she will win.

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hudspur · 21/05/2011 23:19

I think Lagarde is favourite but China has said they would prefer a non-European so its not a shoe-in. Lagarde does have impressive credentials and should hopefully do a good job.

FunnysInTheGarden · 21/05/2011 23:18

Thatcher was Britains biggest nightmare and destroyed our manufacturing base. It is insulting to Churchill to use them in the same sentence.

longfingernails · 21/05/2011 23:13

Thatcher was our greatest PM since Churchill.

But going back to Lagarde - it seems she is a shoe-in now, despite being French. I can't see any other candidate with the breadth of international support she has.

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FunnysInTheGarden · 21/05/2011 23:11

ahhh LFN so you are a Thatcherite. No wonder I like you so much........

Well said edam the only thing going for GO is his contacts list

hudspur · 21/05/2011 23:04

Speculating whether Osborne would be a candidate for a major international job in 10 years is pointless, no one knows what will happen in the mean time.

Scarletbanner · 21/05/2011 23:03

I don't for a minute think that GB thinks or cares that anyone in the Tory party likes him. Although you may be aware that he is very good friends with Ming Campbell, who I would hardly put on the far left.

And ROFL at the thought of Osborne ever being a serious contender for a job like this. Ninny is a fabulous word for him - I don't use that word enough!

longfingernails · 21/05/2011 23:03

Christine Lagarde certainly has a very warm opinion of Osborne, as does Timothy Geithner. He always strikes me as being remarkably intelligent.

However, unlike Cameron, he isn't a one-nation wet. He actually believes in Thatcherite ideas rather than soppy Cameroon One Nation fare. Cameron doesn't hate Labour and socialism in his gut, the way Thatcher did - but Osborne certainly does. He despises them. I adore him.

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edam · 21/05/2011 22:59

Osborne's a chinless wonder whose only qualification for office is that he's mates with Cameron and went to a posh school.

longfingernails · 21/05/2011 22:57

Yes, I suppose Gordon is a ninny.

Osborne isn't a contender as he hasn't spent much time in public office - but if he keeps up his current good work, in 10 years time he will be a serious contender for one of the big international jobs.

Gordon Brown should stop thinking that anyone outside the far left actually likes him. Instead, he should start actually turning up to Parliament and doing his job - he can't even be bothered to turn up for important votes.

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FunnysInTheGarden · 21/05/2011 22:53

I was the other day while listening to R4 on the way home. They were announcing all of the runners for head of the IMF and I was thinking I bet ole Georgie Osbourne isn't one, as they reeled off influential this and extremely bright that.........

I mean jesus, compare GB to GO and you've got to snort..........One political heavyweight and one big ninny.......

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