Should Clegg Stand Down As Party Leader?

Edam - you could be right if the last government was totally honest and accurate in calculating the local government funding formula. Personally I don't think numeracy or indeed honesty were their strong points - but that's just my opinion, of course.

nah, that's bollocks - government funding is based on indices of deprivation which reflect the fact the economy is strongest in the SE ever since Maggie decided to smash the heavy industries of the North, Scotland and Wales. Wandsworth and Westminster manage to have low council taxes despite being in the SE. (And presumably shit public services - I used to live in Wandsworth but never had cause to use any council services other than the bins and the roads.)

Edam - this could be the reason, especially if you live in the south.

Swedes, do you really think our Tory County Council is low tax? Doesn't feel like it when I'm paying my council tax bill.

It's 10.10pm. Everyones gone out.......Newwave I think you go out on a Saturday night. Wish I did! Think I will retire witha hobnob and cocoa!zzzzzzzzz

Newwave I don't have a clue how UKIP did (must find out) but if I was a LIb Dem supporter like you, I would want Clegg to go. Clegg does not appear strong enough to do his job, he always looks bleary eyed/red eyed. Is it because he has been 'crying to music' or has not had enough sleep? Some little shit on radio 4 today reckoned that the Lib Dems will be wiped out at the next election. I did vote no, was going to vote yes but decided to vote no, when I found out it gave more of a chance of the Labour party being in power. Whatever happens, whoever is in power, for the people things don't change they only get worse.

usualsuspect

Spot on, I voted yes through gritted teeth, I would sooner of stuffed the ballot paper down Cleggs throat than in the ballot box.

Quisling git

It is the way it is though ...Cleggy had to take the compromise he didn't even want AV ..people have had enough of his back tracking it was a fuck off Clegg vote ..not a vote for Cameron ..He may claim it is but we all know why its a NO vote

"agreement"

Comp,

Lose, Lose dont think so.

Tories still hated in Wales and Scotland, Clegg given a good kicking, cracks appearing in the coalition with the LD's saying "no more support for legislation that is not in the egreement"

You forget I am a left wing LD supporter and have been since the formation of the SDP. I will probably only support labour until the Orange bookers are gone.

Not to bad at all. :o

How did UKIP do :)

btw, nurses are already being sacked under this government that claims to have 'protected' the NHS. 500 clinical posts going at St George's in Tooting alone, IIRC.

wiko - unfortunately history shows every government of whatever politicial persuasion likes to meddle with the NHS. Massive reorganisations that waste millions of pounds and distract everyone from their actual job come around roughly ever five years.

Fat chance that this lot will get rid of bureaucracy - they just want to contract the management out to McKinseys (who have won the contract to manage the whole NHS in London). While contracting out provision to the private sector. The Tories are trying to dismantle the NHS so their mates in big business can make fat profits. Profits which will come at the expense of your mum's hip replacement, or your child's SALT, or someone else's rehab after a heart attack...

People voted NO ..because it was cleggs pay off

says it all really

Clegg I feel is finished, I can't see him in politics at all in a few years, or am I being harsh?
Newwave. Unfortunately for you, it was a lose, lose, night, (but you mustn't grumble).

No, don't get rid of Clegg!
He's doing a great job - what a result!

cat64 - he did lie over tuition fees. His pledge was to 'vote against any increase in tuition fees'. Nothing to do with whether they won the election or not. If they'd won the election, there presumably wouldn't have BEEN a vote to raise tuition fees. The pledge was only applicable in the event that they didn't win.

chil - they were offered a referendum on PR by the Labour party. Only Clegg didn't report that back to his party, in case they accepted it.

wiko, that's the view of those who should know, like doctors and nurses.

Perhaps we should listen to them, rather than blindly follow Lansley's proposals, which seem to have been thought up overnight.

The NHS should be set up as a not for profit company not a milk cow for big business to gouge.

Thatcher/Major had years to acheive full employment yet never made it below one million what makes you think the current lot will do any better.

Will the NHS be damaged? I don't see whats so wrong in removing bureaucracy and increasing competition within the health service.

Reducing the deficit may well see a rise in unemployment as workers are made redundant but this is inevitable the current level of public sector employment is being sustained by unsustainable borrowing on the bond market. This has no long term future and will crowd out enterprise.

The coalition is doing well in my opinion and are on course to put the public finances back in order.

Whilst damaging the NHS for the benefit of their mates in big business, causing mass unemployment and social hardship AGAIN

No they were always going to become unpopular due to the cuts in spending they were going to have to implement in order to eliminate the deficit. The coalition is doing well in my opinion and are on course to put the public finances back in order