Red Ed to get nose op to fix his whiny voice

Does Ed have lisp as well? Or is it my imagination!

I hope he does it.

His voice does detract from his message at times.

I hate to say it because I don't like judging politicians on superficial features.

I have no problem with the man getting his huge hooter/conk fixed on the NHS. I would have thought a brain transplant would have been more beneficial for him tho!

anna Alison Roberts told me, on my first day at school "urrrgh, you're posh, you are" and wouldn't let me have a red crayon. So, had I had my head kicked in, it would have been safe to assume that it was because of my difference manifesting itself in the form of poshness

[baffles self]

claig The only name one was allowed ending in 'a' was Lisa. There were about 12 of them in my class.

Emma would have been beyond the posh pale.

...mind you, where I come from, they think Sunderland is posh

LostMyIdentity us too! sometimes the Today programme is drowned out by repeated use of The Epithet. Fun, innit?

We're having to leave the country during the royal wedding, otherwise we will be drowned in profanity

Oh, and by the way, SpringHeeledJack, we have a similar epithet for him here... although Osbourne can be replaced by Cameron, Johnson, Royal Family or Gove as the mood takes us... love it!!

Excuse me, as the one who pointed out Gideon's Gideon-ness... it was not to make the point he has a Jewish name. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about it, seeing as I'm half German/Jewish myself.

My point is that he's a tosspot and as a mark of dislike, I poke fun at him by using his second name - oh - and by pointing him out as a Tory f*ckwit, thus automatically rendering himself a tosser as well.

Hope that's clear. How can I be a jew-baiter if a) I'm half Jewish (which my mother, growing up in Hitler's German really can't get to grips with, but what can you do?) and b) if I support Ed, he's Jewish, so... um, something wrong with that picture, surely?

peace out and enough of the 'oooh, I can't say anything about anybody in case I offend anybody' malarky. This is a political thread on MN. Offence appears to comes naturally. Especially if LFN is involved, as I'm starting to learn....

'(I nearly copped it myself, as my name ends in 'a')'

Blimey, is Emma no longer safe?

But you might have had your head kicked in because you sounded different, not posh.

If you were called George at my school, you would probably have done ok

If you were called Gideon, however, you would have had your head kicked in in Reception

...that's my Poshness Test (I nearly copped it myself, as my name ends in 'a')

Interesting dog whistle, though.

OK, well you are in a minority

I don't really care whether he's posh or not

Churchill was very posh and he was good

I honestly don't see Gideon as a posh name. I do see George as quite a posh name, in fact.

we don't call him Gideon in this house. Normally it's "that cunt Osborne"

...can we get back to Ed's sinuses, please?

I think that is quite interesting politically, if he is widely referred to as Gideon.

If you had looked at his wiki page you would know he is English through and through. English as an English thing. His father is in Debretts ffs. He is an English aristocrat.

People like to emphasise this aspect by referring to him by his given, quite pretentious name, to 'prove' that he can't know anything about the real world, too rich, out of touch, Eton etc.

anna, why don't you just email Gideon, and ask him if he changed it to George because:

a) it was too posh,
b) too Jewish or
c) wanky?

he's widely referred to as Gideon, to emphasise his poshness.

It is a posh name. I've just asked dp what it made him think of, and he said posh

(ds overheard, and has just shouted downstairs "wanky". Just off to and chastise him)

Yes. Yes that's exactly what it is.

So is it just hatred of difference, then? People who change their unusual sounding names to more English sounding ones?

omg are you paranoid about anti-semitism or something? Gideon is DEFINITELY a posh/unusual name to most people, and makes him sound more of a ponce than George, which is quite a plain name

He isn't even Jewish (according to wiki)

From Wikipedia, doesn't look like he is Jewish. So what's the point of calling him Gideon, then?

The impression created in me by constantly referring to him as Gideon is that the poster wants to make the point that he is Jewish. I don't even know if he is or not! But I can't see why you would keep calling him Gideon. It's not a posh English name like Tarquin or whatever, so what's your point? That he's changed his name to sound more English, like St George? Or what? I'm genuinely asking - it just seems a strange thing to do, if it's not an anti-Jewish agenda.

d'you know Tethers, was just thinking the exact same thing

(the first bit, not the last)

[hopelessly naive emoticon]

LFN, every thread you start makes the right look so spiteful and abhorrent that I used to think you were actually working for the Labour party.

You have outdone yourself with this one- I am now convinced that you are actually Bob Crow

Besides, the only operation Ed could have which would improve the electability of the Labour party is to have his brother's head grafted onto his shoulders.

if he's jewish, he wasn't christened

[pedantic]