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Is the government imcompetent

37 replies

newwave · 09/04/2011 23:37

They're only incompetent from a certain perspective.

From the perspective of the bondholders, a right-wing government which seeks to privatise the NHS is doing a good job.

From the perspective of the arms industry looking to boost sales, a right-wing government which outmuscles Washington in the War on Terror 3 is doing a good job.

From the perspective of the bankers, a right-wing government which cuts corporation tax while cutting benefits is doing a good job.

From the perspective of the tax cheats, a government which announces that it will not seek to challenge the basis of domicile in an era in which non-doms in the City have fucked up the country, is doing a good job

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bemybebe · 13/04/2011 00:55

Very well said Niceguy. I would add if we were a business we'd be owned by Russia right now. Oops...

HHLimbo · 13/04/2011 00:37

Its not a bankrupt business at all, although it seems the banks have tried their best to achieve this.

The 'deficit' is at one of the lowest levels of the last 250 year! We've never had it so good (before the tories started dismantling).

'nice'guy2, you seem to have a very negative view of everything. It must be a very negative and sad way to live your life.

Without investment, there will be no growth, there will be no recovery.

Niceguy2 · 12/04/2011 09:58

If we think of the economy like a business then it's a bankrupt business and someone should have called in the administrators years ago.

In business terms we're running at a huge loss each year, we owe the banks trillions of pounds for "investments" we've made in schools, benefits & the NHS etc. All made no doubt in good faith but who thought about the return on investment? If you look at the results, the investment simply hasn't been worth it.

All that investment in education and standards are only higher because exams are dumbed down. Despite billions in real terms, the NHS remains a mess. Benefits? Well thats just a joke. Not only are we borrowing to give benefits to people, we've also trillions pounds of liabilities yet to come through more pensioners and less dying and public sector final salary pensions.

If we're a business we're not selling what people want to buy. Our "strength" is financial services. Good luck with that one right now! Unlike Germany who managed themselves astutely and have a huge manufacturing base selling quality products like BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Bosch etc. we have virtually no manufacturing industry to speak of.

If we were a business we'd be owned by China right now.

HHLimbo · 12/04/2011 01:09

Longfingercut: You must think of the economy like a business. You buy in goods/raw material at low cost. Then you manufacture/grow them into something useful and valuable.

The country is the same; the product is the people who make Britain. If you stop investing in the raw material, you will have less to sell, your country will be crapper. If you stop investing in transforming them into a valuable product, you will have raw material of little/no value, even though they may have great potential.

That is what the misguided fools have done.

HHLimbo · 12/04/2011 01:04

Tory gov: Cut britain! cut everything! cut them! cut babies and children! cut you!

Theyre off their trolleys.

pinski1971 · 11/04/2011 14:13

longwhatever, I think you're trolling your face off. I prefer to think of Labour's recent state-funded support of other things that give our country credence...(although I think of myself as a totally federalist European by preference...) - oooh, let me think?.... yes, some suggestions for excellent historical tradition are coming to me....

....Writers? Scientists? Philosphers? Artists? Educators?

I MIGHT be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the coalition just f*cked them all over good and proper?

You're talking a pile of gobshite - the military made us great???? Do me a favour! Go file your fingernails, love.

Wow. This place beats Babycenter for nutters anyday!

Love and peace out - except to anybody who wants to cut funding for all the above, university funding, nursery places... but wallop a few more pennies into Trident. Magic!!

breadandbutterfly · 11/04/2011 08:50

Op - you should crdit your sources.

See:

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/08/david-cameron-nhs-schools-tory?INTCMP=SRCH

Gafasipo · 11/04/2011 01:55

Longnails, if troll 3/10

If cerial: Wow. Derp harder next time.

I think I've covered all my responses.

ttosca · 11/04/2011 00:59

Why would cutting public spending indicate 'having their heart in the right place'? lol

Tradition and the military are not things which make Britain great. England's social conditions resemble the 19th Century, in many ways, and it's political system is archaic.

Britain has many things going for it, on the other hand, just not the things you mentioned: A long intellectual history of writers, scientists, philosophers, and artists, for example.

glasnost · 10/04/2011 16:22

You ARE a satirist aren't you longclaws? Excellent.

longfingernails · 10/04/2011 14:11

Sadly, they aren't very competent. They seem to be backtracking from privatising the NHS - they overcut defence and are having to revisit, and they are giving in to the EU/ECHR left, right and centre.

That said, be glad we don't have Labour in. We would be holding out the national begging bowl to all and sundry, whilst continuing to dole out benefits on an epic scale so that bogus asylum seekers can live in Notting Hill mansions.

The government aren't much to write home about, but at least they aren't Labour.

And at least their heart is in the right place - cut taxes, cut benefits, cut public spending, cut debt. They aren't very good at actually doing it, but at least they believe it.

They actually love this country, and unlike Labour, they aren't sickened by patriotism, tradition, the military, and other things which make Britain great.

pinski1971 · 10/04/2011 13:58

my my, aren't we chippy today? LMFAO!!!

Actually newwave, having just been sarcastic for apparently no point whatsoever, other than it amuses me in a childish manner..... I totally agree with everything you say.

It only amazes me that a such a staggeringly large number of apparently apathetic, politically totally ignorant people are less than outraged by the current coalition. They have NO mandate to do what they are doing - and if you ask most people in the street whether they even understand the concept of 'having a mandate', they'd probably stop chewing their cud long enough to look in a dumb, bovine manner at you, and mutter something about 'well he sounded good in the political debates'. Then carry on with their lardy arses, wandering down the street, caring less about the rape and pillage of our society and more about - well, fuck KNOWS what they are worrying about, tbhwy!

Big society - cheapskate marketeer's way of dressing up the idea of the well-meaning middle class do-gooder (together with their pointy elbows) stepping in to try and shore up the rape and pillage of many services which have been put in place or strengthened over the past ten years.

God help us all. Lovely post, well done you for raising this issue. How sad that after 12 hours, only I have bothered to comment on it? See above... (not that MNers are bovine, natch! LOL) Let's hope it is because we're all too busy enjoying some blissful summery weather.

Lord help us all.

Love and peace out... (not to mention the BASTARD coalition...)
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