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TUC National Demonstration Against Cuts

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OrangeBernard · 11/03/2011 19:24

Who's going? I've just booked my train tickets. Its my first protest, any advice or tips? Bit worried about kettling.

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dittany · 26/03/2011 12:43

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wubblybubbly · 26/03/2011 12:42

mmmwine, you realise, don't you, that the tories fully supported the level of spending of the Labour government and were committed to matching them?

happiestblonde · 26/03/2011 12:41

totally irrelevant but from what I've seen/heard and also from looking at MN profiles it tends to be younger people who are pro cuts.

claig · 26/03/2011 12:40

But the principle of least harm is being pushed by those who benefitted from the bailout, by those who say they will up sticks and leave the country if we impose taxes on their bonusues. They've got fancy offices and fancy cars, but it doesn't mean they don't make fancy claims. Believing them is like believing that Ronnie Kray maintained law and order in the East End.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 26/03/2011 12:39

Dittany - You said "It's even a lie about how much they contribute to the Exchequer - Aberdeen City pays more in corporation tax than the City of London."

So I took "Aberdeen City pays more in corporation tax than the City of London" as the fact you were asserting to support the conclusion ""It's even a lie about how much they contribute to the Exchequer".

That conclusion doesn't follow from that fact as Corportation Tax isn't all they contribute to the Exchequer.

If I've misunderstood you, then I'm sorry.

happiestblonde · 26/03/2011 12:38

that video on the false economy website is laughable

mmmwine · 26/03/2011 12:38

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claig · 26/03/2011 12:37

They are big fans of referenda. Why didn't they give us a referendum on which cuts we wanted to make and who we wanted to tax more? Instead of them deciding that foreign aid should be ringfenced and even increased and that it was more important than DLA, the public could have decided what to do with its money.

glasnost · 26/03/2011 12:37

What "side" would I be on coalition? I'm on the side of justice. End of.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 26/03/2011 12:36

Claig - No, I'm making no assertion either way, I'm saying the principle of least harm is more important that that of punishment.

happiestblonde · 26/03/2011 12:36

To counter wubbly's link (by anti-cuts campainers)

conservativehome.blogs.com/files/budget-in-context.pdf

dittany · 26/03/2011 12:36

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meditrina · 26/03/2011 12:36

Please read CinnabarRed's thread that I linked above - it's really interesting on corporation tax, and shows (via well supported reasoning) the flaws in Monbiot.

Azulluna · 26/03/2011 12:36

I'm interested in a dialogue with Thereiver....... How come you feel that strongly about public services? Which services do you think should be cut? I think it's important to talk about how a person gets to have a specific opinion. Would you like to comment?

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 26/03/2011 12:35

Oh well it you going to quote economists. There pretty much nothing you can't find one economist or another to agree with.

meditrina · 26/03/2011 12:34

Unless and until someone lays out an alternative, costed agenda it's hard to work out what is the best way ahead.

Is anyone ever going to give us an alternative plan?

claig · 26/03/2011 12:34

TCNY, it sounds like you have swallowed the lies of the guilty ones that punishing them would harm us more than them. They've been pulling the wool over your eyes for years and even after pulling off the heist of the century, you still believe them. You would have probably made a case for Al Capone.

dittany · 26/03/2011 12:33

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wubblybubbly · 26/03/2011 12:33

mmmwine, please just have a read of this link

Now, I'll make no pretence, this is a group campaigning against the cuts, so obviously they have a particular point of view, but please read it.

When some of the top experts in the field of economics take time to speak out against the government's policies, then I think it's worth considering that there may be alternatives.

happiestblonde · 26/03/2011 12:32

mmmm fallacy

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 26/03/2011 12:31

Ditatny - You asserted a fact and then drew a conclusion from that fact. All I'm doing is point out that your fact does not support your conclusion.

happiestblonde · 26/03/2011 12:30

cracking post mmmwine. good work.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 26/03/2011 12:30

claig - NO. Absolutely not. We want to resolve the issue in the way that does the least harm. If punishing those responsible makes things worse for those who are not then you shouldn't do it.

mmmwine · 26/03/2011 12:28

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