TUC National Demonstration Against Cuts

The right are more cating. The left think they have a monopoly on care. It's a myth they choose to perpetuate. It's lke spoon feeding your child until it's 18. It has no self reliance. Encouraging responsibility for yourself, an internal mind set issue, rather than the hand of the state will always provide...

The left swear a lot, the right make completely irrational statements (see longfingernails posts above). Well I know which I prefer.

Abri1e the bins were probably removed for security purposes.

Regardless I don't think it's all that telling how protesters leave the place. What I find telling is how people treat other people. Especially the poorest, most disenfranchised people in society. The current Government are making cuts that are affecting people who depend the most on public services. These will be the poorest, the disabled, the weak, the women and children ie. the people least able to stand up for themselves and ask for a fair deal. Meanwhile the are multi-million pound companies who don't pay the tax they are obliged to pay, are screwing the system through tax loopholes. Many of these companies make 'donations' to the Tory party. The poor and disenfranchised are paying at the expense of the rich. This utterly sucks.

Absolutely hallarious that someone up the the thread said that the left have to swear a lot.

From what I have observed over the past year on mumsnet, is in fact the complete opposite. More often than not it seems, the right wing sections seem to swear a lot more and also [but not importantly] miss out appropriate punctuation, thus making their comments rather diffficult to understand on more than one level.

"....As I watch the television coverage of the march making its way through London, and of an HSBC branch being smashed up by anarchists, my eye is drawn less and less to the angry protestors and more to the ordinary people milling around looking perturbed. Some are foreign tourists. The rest are called voters"

An interesting analysis of the day by Economist. The timing of the small but violent side protest during Ed Miliband's speech was unfortunate for him, and a gift for the Coalition.

Abride I was involved in both the countryside alliance march and the anti cuts march today, both times I took my litter home.

QUite possible!

Abr1de the foxes ate it all

I think it's quite telling, though, how people leave the place after they've demonstrated. AFter the Countryside Alliance march there was barely a piece of paper left behind. I think there is a leftwing mindset of someone cleaning up after you that feeds into a more pernicious mindset that someone will always pay and that person won't be you.

I say that as someone who has had a very serious pay cut this year, and has a husband who will probably be out of work within months. We are feeling the pain but it's not the fault of this government. They are being the litter collectors for the previous lot.

Abr!de - I was in hyde park today looking for a bin to put our rubbish in and there weren't any. The park had removed them.

Abr1de that's the least of our worries- who's going to provide the bins, collect the rubbish and deal with the rubbish in the shiny new future?

And I'm not entirely sure littering is exclusively a left wing trait, I think it's just antisocial people in general isn't it? Many of whom are not left wing...

I pity the people who have to clear up all the litter in Hyde Park. Why can't left-wingers put rubbish in bins?

redruby my favourite was the punch and judy mock up

Xenia limited vocabulary and it was ever thus?
hmm yes as evinced by all those monosyllabic and sweary left wing authors, poets and political commentators... yeah. ok if you say so

"You don't have to signal a social conscience by looking like a frump. Lace knickers won't hasten the holocaust, you can ban the bomb in a feather boa just as well as without, and a mild interest in the length of hemlines doesn't necessarily disqualify you from reading Das Kapital and agreeing with every word."
? Elizabeth Bibesco

Yes, the left have limited vocabulary and feel the need to swear a lot. It was ever thus.

Herewith my top three quotes written on placards seen today on the march:

1. "You can stuff your royal wedding up your a*se"
2. "This is what a Feminist Looks Like" (held by busty blonde clearly wearing wonderbra)
3. "David you can fuvk Nick but you cant fuvk us"

When I picture longfingernails why am I getting the image of someone dressed in red,white and blue union flag clothes, with pictures of Mrs. Thatcher all round the Walls of the room, drinking a gin and tonic?

I will have a look. They sent me some pictures on their phone. Apparantly they were sat listening to poetry.

Beaker: if that's the alternative, can you confirm how much revenue the closing of the loopholes will bring? Which cuts can be reversed with that sum? (Please remember that even with the current cuts, we need to borrow an additional £146b or so).

What is the plan for getting the money back from the Banks?

desperately

I posted a link to some of the pics posted from F&Ms, maybe your friends were in those

The Alternative herbietea is to block the tax loopholes that are in place so that more revenue is brought back to the country's coffers. And to get back the money used to bail out the banks, and use this to pay off the loans the country has.

Public spending cuts DO have to be made, but it's the fact that it's front-line jobs go first and then the systematic dismantling of the NHS that is most worrying for most people who took action today.

The protest in Fortnums was peaceful. I have friends who were involved in it.