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TUC National Demonstration Against Cuts

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OrangeBernard · 11/03/2011 19:24

Who's going? I've just booked my train tickets. Its my first protest, any advice or tips? Bit worried about kettling.

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southeastastra · 27/03/2011 21:10

even english national ballet have to make cuts, arts mean nothing under the tories.

southeastastra · 27/03/2011 21:09

'not' industry

southeastastra · 27/03/2011 21:09

saved it from what? a future based on wanky office jobs and now industry.

we once had great shipbuilding and steel trades and mines and craftspeople - england was always a country that had great craftspeople. not now.

we do a good line of systems analysts and consultants though. Hmm

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:08

the boat race was smashing

RamblingRosa · 27/03/2011 21:08

What an amazing march. I was there all day and I can honestly say that was the most incredible march I've ever been to.

What a shame the twats smashing up windows got so much of the news coverage.

I hope all of you who went had a good, safe march (especially if you took your DCs).

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:07

Thanks claig, totally up for debate. Dp's a filthy lefty a bit to the left of me (even he refused to vote labour at last election)

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:06

Love Thatcher, Thatcher saved Britain. I wore my I

claig · 27/03/2011 21:06

No, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm interested in ideas, even if I disagree with them. I suspect our ideas of what is ethical differ. But I like debating ideas.

CrystalStair · 27/03/2011 21:05

The usual twats take over. Peaceful protest was never on the agenda for everyone. The boat race was more fun.

southeastastra · 27/03/2011 21:03

see i have to find something as a 'scapegoat' as my job has been going for years and years, even under thatcher's government. yet now it's been cut and thousands in my sector face the same cuts.

it just doesn't make sense - they are cutting the wrong things and not taking cuts themselves. there will be a change, people aren't going to take it. this is just the beginning

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:03

(Erm DP's made dinner finally so will be back tomorrow)

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:02

wook - no, I don't.

Jogon - thanks for figures.

Jogon · 27/03/2011 21:01

Evidence please, rosebud!

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 21:01

Thanks studying

Claig, having viewed your previous posts I presume you are being sarcarstic

I'd rather live in a society where the 'rich' are not vilified and do not have to pay more than their fair share - considering they are less likely to use nhs, state schools, public transport (outside london) etc - and we have greater freedom.

Jogon · 27/03/2011 21:00

Rosedbud, have you read any of this thread?

Banks bailout = one off 85 bn.

Welfare alone = £232 bn or £148 bn depending on what you read EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

Seriously, stop banking on about the bloody banks - things would have been a million times worse especially for the poor and vulnerable if we hadn't bailed 'em out!

Rosebud05 · 27/03/2011 21:00

The bail out is still going on and will be doing for quite some years......

wook · 27/03/2011 21:00

"My profession is writing about ethics (academia). As a Nozickean, Spencierian libertarian working on Auberon Herbert I think there is nothing more morally abhorrent than taxation."

happiest you need to work on your concept of morality or your definition of abhorrent, one or the other.

In addition to your definition of child abuse!

Rosebud05 · 27/03/2011 20:59

How lovely for you happiest

I would say people spending their lives being exploited on less than the minimum wage to afford to life in shit, private rented accommodation with reduced life expectancy etc etc so that we all enjoy clean streets, empty bins etc etc is considerably more abhorrent than taxation.

Glitterknickaz · 27/03/2011 20:59

I think your perspective changes once you've had the rough end. I've paid in, I've taken out and I'll pay in again.

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 20:59

Oh FFS the bail out was a small percentage of the year on year deficit + the national debt

STOP USING THE BANKS AS A SCAPEGOATE

Adams - yeah you have me there, my undergrad, masters and phd have been wildly subsidised and I cannot argue at all!

claig · 27/03/2011 20:59

happiestblonde, sounds like a fascinating area of study. You will have to start a thread on it sometime. I would be interested in it. Just going to google Auberon Hubert.

studyinghard · 27/03/2011 20:58

Why is tax avoidance morally criminal? As happiestblonde said, people do it with ISAs etc. If people could get gross interest on their bank accounts, they would. If people could avoid tax on a particular product, they would.

bullet234 · 27/03/2011 20:58

I'd prefer to live in a society in which people help and support each other, rather than employing a "pull up the rope Jack, I'm alright" attitude.

happiestblonde · 27/03/2011 20:57

Redbin - no, I said I want a flat tax - which would be fair as we would all pay a percentage of their income to something we all use, such as roads etc - rich people still pay more because they earn more, despite the fact they may not use state schools, hospitals etc

coccyx · 27/03/2011 20:57

so is sitting on your arse when you could be working