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Have you noticed the opoor seem to be getting a better deal in Scotland and Wales?

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GabbyLoggon · 04/03/2011 13:25

Presription changes. And the government dont nick their houses when they are old.

This happens to about 40,000 householders a year in England. "Gabby"

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eatyourveg · 04/03/2011 17:50

definitely considering crossing offa's dyke when we get to retirement

Minkyjj · 04/03/2011 17:39

I think its a disgace. Devolution is inherantly unfair in its present form. Why is it only england that now has to pay perscription charges of over £7.00 when Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland get off free - the nhs is crying out for extra funding so its madness that we bow to devolved parliaments and allow them to just decide not to contribute - if thats the case, the health budgets should take account that these areas of the UK dont contribute. I am quite pro the idea of devolution but not in its current form of discrimination based on postcode. Before anyone says anything, my family are Scottish but I live in England.
My grandmother lived all her life in Scotland paying her taxes but because she moved to England in her 70s for more family support, she suffered by not getting the same financial benefits she would have been entitled to in scotland. I understand there are many inequalities such as demetia care and the whole mess needs to be sorted out.

Sleepingonthebus · 04/03/2011 17:39

thats because its only the English who work

Eh?

thereiver · 04/03/2011 17:31

thats because its only the English who work. we pay the taxes that pay for every thing.

JemimaMop · 04/03/2011 14:13

Lots of poor people in Wales too. 15 of the 22 local authorities qualified for Objective One funding from Europe as GDP was 75% or less of the European average.

As I said on another thread, devolution means that different countries choose to spend their money in different ways. It doesn't mean that one is better overall.

LostInTransmogrification · 04/03/2011 14:07

There is quite a difference in life expectancy between Scotlands rich and poor (measured in decades not just a handful of years) so the care can't be that much better than here.

expatinscotland · 04/03/2011 14:07

LOL.

weegiemum · 04/03/2011 14:06

There are poor people in Scotland.

I work with them - young mums. With literacy problems. In the charity sector as there are no government schemes to help them.

Doubt they are much better off than those in England, Wales or (have you forgotten?) Northern Ireland.

There are some benefits up here, but there are a lot of areas in which things are much the same, if not worse (health outcomes anyone?)

jasper1980 · 04/03/2011 14:03

Why do you sign "Gabby"? just curiousSmile

Chil1234 · 04/03/2011 13:58

Where is my answer not objective or acting like a Tory supporter? Hmm

You're assuming that free care in old age and free prescriptions mean that the poor are not 'bashed' in Scotland. This may be true, but rich as well as poor people need prescriptions and care in old age. It could be reasonably argued, therefore, that the Scottish parliament is looking after its wealthier residents just as much as its poorest ones.

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GabbyLoggon · 04/03/2011 13:51

It helps if we try and not act like Tory supporters.

And answer objectively as possible

Currently: Where to poor people get the best deal
from government?

in alphabetical order: England, Scotland or Wales.

I think it is probably Scotland followed by Wales (with England a poor 3rd CUTS considered.)

I dont think any of us regulars who post here are professional politicians; so we dont need to act like them. They have party pressures we do not have.

cheers "Gabby"

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Chil1234 · 04/03/2011 13:46

The Scottish and Welsh Assemblies run their own budgets and allocate spend according to their own priorities. They have various sources of income - domestic rates, borrowing, EU money - but a lot of it is direct from Westminster.

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GabbyLoggon · 04/03/2011 13:34

I thought the government ran the various departments. I know Cameron is trying to pt out
of his poor bashing cuts. (Nick is in Barnsley today) "Gabby"

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Chil1234 · 04/03/2011 13:31

The two devolved parliaments were supported with heavy central funding when they were originally set up. When the money is reduced, there may be some changes required to previous policy decisions.

BTW... the Westminster government doesn't 'nick' anyone's house when they get old.

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GabbyLoggon · 04/03/2011 13:27

Perhaps Scotland Wales are easier to govern.

But it does make the Tory-led Coalition seem mean-spirited. (And the cabinet are not all millionaires.) "Gabby"

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