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Does Cameron's "Big Society"....

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RMCW · 14/02/2011 18:39

...remind anyone else of "The Fourth Sector" from that episode of "The thick of it"??????????

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jackstarb · 14/02/2011 21:42

RMCW - I don't think Cameron got his ideas from 'The Thick of It'. Much of it came from Blairite thinking (based on US experiences - I think) from 10 years ago.

As George states this was never traditional 'socialist' approach. And many Labour types never really bought into it. They put pressure on Labour to focus on the large state and welfare dependancy model.

claig · 14/02/2011 21:29

Smile I agree with you. It's one big coalition, and the alternative parties have no chance of being heard. I wouldn't vote for them anyway, but I think we do need proportional representation system to have a real democracy.

georgeorwell · 14/02/2011 21:24

claig how lovely to agree with you. but you should have preceded "politicians" and "parties" with the word MAINSTREAM. there ARE parties who are not in this together but have been marginalised over the years. at least you'll know now not to call new labour socialists again. they've not been remotely that since before kinnock. i've more respect for real tories than ambiguous new labour types. the only opposition to the condems is genuine left politics - not feigned outrage from the new labour lot who set this all in motion in the first place by being intensely relaxed with extreme wealth.

RMCW · 14/02/2011 20:33

....I find it all very scary..that a show satirising politics and politicans is providing ideas for policies Hmm

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claig · 14/02/2011 20:10

What is teh Fourth Sector all about? I wish I had actually watched The Thick of It.

Just watched the former Labour Party donor, Sir Ronnie Cohen, on Channel 4 News. He will be an advisor for the new Big Society Bank. He said that this is not a new policy, it is at least 10 years old, and Labour agreed with it. They just gave it lower priority. So, it sounds like jackstarb is right. Much of this accords with New Labour thinking. It doesn't surprise me, and Labour opposition to it may just be theatre and acting.

Jon Snow actually said to him, so does this mean that we now have an all party coalition. I am starting to think that we always did have. Now I know what "we are all in it together" means. It means that all the politicians and parties are in it together.

jackstarb · 14/02/2011 19:12

Well that's not so surprising. The Thick of It was a satire of New Labour, and the Big Society draws heavily on ideas initially developed by New Labour circa 1997-2000.