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BBC 4: 'Justice: Fairness and the Big Society

31 replies

jibbet · 23/01/2011 22:52

Did anyone else watch this?
I soon turned off and sent this comment to the Beeb:
"Unfortunately the debate itself was unfair and unrepresentative. Mr Sandel called on far more men to comment and debate than he did women,so many salient points were ignored.
Men do not live as the majority population, women, do and are ignorant of their (unpaid) role as carer and domestic and the skills and intelligence integral in doing these activities successfully. That is why professional carers and cleaners ( and nurses and primary school teachers) are so appallingly badly paid and why footballers are ridiculously overpaid(it's only a game!). Mr Sandel also asserts that it is only through education that one can improve one's living standards and pay,going on to address university fees, but education and attitudes to education begin in the home. Who's most likely to inculcate those attitudes right from the start? Mum. let's redress the balance! Starting with the BBC!"

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Coleysworth · 23/01/2011 23:42

Gah, my digibox only recorded the first 20 minutes. This is the first of a whole series of programmes on the theme of justice.

Anyway FWIW I agree with newwave

newwave · 23/01/2011 23:35

Jibbet, 100% right, we can afford wars and trident but cant afford to keep libraries open.

We can afford obscene bonuses for some but can cut care for those in dire need.

Strange set of values we have.

Will there be a second program?.

jibbet · 23/01/2011 23:28

Again I agree other costs such as warmongering and Trident are a terrible and total waste of money (though a lot of jobs maintain the 'defense' industry)which should be spent on maintaining some of Labour's social projects (a friend who was trained at significant public expense to teach parenting skills sees her job demolished in March whilst Ian Duncan Smith announces that 'broken families' cost the nation £20 billion per year. -
To me 'the Big Society' involves using my democratic right to try to persuade via emailing my MP and other ministers, protest or talking about it to try to change things, as well as doing my best to follow your mother's excellent example.

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newwave · 23/01/2011 23:13

Dave bollocks would be a good idea if that was to supplement the state but he wants it to replace the state. I did like the "rug being pulled out by the government" comment regarding the existing charities.

Yes there are some good people, my Mum of 82 works in two charity shops and always has time to help others.

jibbet · 23/01/2011 23:07

I agree, that the few women I saw contribute (apart from the initial bimbo) had excellent things to say - I just wish we'd heard more of them.
Dave's Bollocks are a good idea, but for many reasons society has become too busy, selfish, apathetic, cynical or frightened - to name a few - to seriously consider adopting them. Fortunately, some saintly people always have.

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newwave · 23/01/2011 22:56

Very good program but i think you are being a bit unfair regarding who was called upon to speak. Carol gave a good account regarding the "cabinet of millionaires" with one of the Tory boys in the audience shaking his head.

Did you see the three "Tory boys" despicable little shits.

Nice to see most thought "Dave's" big society was a load of bollocks