I'm appalled by Cameron

Beenbeta The £75 million they give a day to the EU would be better spent here! that's why I vote UKIP and always will, I want out of the EU. Another 8 countries want to join, so if you have misgivings about the EU they will be trebled when, a potential 172 million people join.

I knew Cameron was a bloody liar when I met him, he pretends he's Eurosceptic whilst caving in to the EU.

The EU has now created it's own 'foreign office' so that the MEPs who are not accountable can live in the Caribbeane with their families at our expense. This foreign office was set up some months ago. See;
www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2011/01/14/an-eu-foreign-policy/
As Redwood says in his article it will have some 5000 freeloaders around the world in exotic places! MEPs are less accountable than MPs. The EU costs Britain £16 billion a year. Perhaps that could pay for the care your family needs! Farage and Gerard Batten (UKIP immigration minister) are the only ones who speak out. The Tory party will never get my vote again. Cheers

LFN- Do you really think that we should rip up the the ECHR? Also with the size of deficit we have we certainly can't afford to scrap the 50% tax rate either.

God if he has lost people like you LFN, he is truly fucked

I'm not enchanted by Cameron either, though he is quite natural at "being" PM.

He wants European judges to decide whether prisoners in Britain get the vote. He won't get rid of the 50% tax rate. He has conceded the intellectual argument on "inequality" to the Guardian classes.

The government is still doing enough to keep me away from UKIP though. The Gove reforms alone make my vote worthwhile.

The man is appalling. He has absolutely no integrity. He is also suffering from an extreme dose of arrogance, truly believing he is of a superior intelligence

another little demonstration of his deviousness

How dreadful. No consolation, just wanted to express sympathy with you all who've posted here. I don't think I realised 'on the ground' how exactly these cuts would hit.

Shocking. I really hope the govt relents. Not holding my breath, though.

Roll on the next election - if the Tories haven't abolished those too in the name of efficiency.

I have read Riven?s statement. I am an old mother of a disabled son who has a disabled wife, both 44 years old and I feel for Riven. I dont believe that Government does enough to help the disabled and their families. We struggled for years to help my son. He is blind with hand difficulty and epilepsy. He worked until he could no longer do so but has the consolation of a lovely wife who is confined to a wheelchair and has epilepsy. After a long search they found the perfect home in residential care. To reduce their seizures they keep active in the local community, a vital aspect of their everyday life. We thought all was well until the government dropped a bomb on their world. It announced that it would take away all their mobility allowance which they need to pay for transport to go out. When my son was told he collapsed and had to be hospitalised. Neither their care home nor their local authority can possibly afford to pay their DLA mobility allowances which come from the DWP. They are so frightened that they will be trapped in their home unable to go out to their courses, exercise class, library and church. They have nightmares about it. No family live near them who can help. I have written to every MP in the House of Commons because I dont know how else I can help them. If they are confined in their home they will despair, have more seizures and be given more drugs. How could any government do this to such vulnerable disabled people who have no other resources?

My daughters main aim in life is to help disabled children and young adults. My son has brain damage received at birth, he is now 27years of age. I had to source every ounce of information myself regarding special education, health and benefits for him. He is now in a wondefull care home enjoying his independent life.

My daughter dreams to do a PhD in social policy and health, however is so far unsuccessful in obtaining monetary funding from her University. She wishes to research the struggles many parents and carers face when trying to obtain financial and personal support, special education, health services and benefits etc. She also wishes to reveal the void many young adults with disabilties face when they transition from the child social services into the adult social services. Many young vulnerable adults find themselves lost within a confusing and supportless system.

I am writing to all parents and carers to inspire hope. There are many young people who feel passionately about fighting for people with disabilties. With a little bit of governmental support a lot of changes could be made. However, I fear we are going to be holding our breath when it comes to the government. Cameron is unsupportive in regards to an issue which I would have assumed would be one close to his heart :(

cameron does not think to keep families together he is splitting families of all types at the seams most of all single parents with young children ..he needs to be more in touch with the people and promote family life . i have written to him loads of times he doesnt even reply .

If anyone is interested, I think the link that dotnet is referring to is this one.

I think the other thing that we all need to remember, all the time is that Britain is

a) massively unequal compared to most countries in Europe

b) massively unequal compared to most of recent British history. Keep meaning to hunt out the stats, but IIRC income distributions are definitely more unequal now than at any time since the 2nd world war, and probably more unequal than they have been since the 1850s (ie before full manhood suffrage, let alone votes for women)

So even if the country is doing badly overall, it is utter rubbish to think that we couldn't improve things by redistributing some of the resources that we do have. It is also IMO utter rubbish to say that companies/the rich would leave and we would be worse off. If that were the case, there would be no industry left in Germany, France, the Benelux countries, let alone any of Scandinavia.

Well, yes, I see your point re Europe, but I think UKIP is a hiding place for narrow minded Express readers and their ilk.

I'm inclined to agree with you BeenBeta. The sooner we stop pandering to Europe the sooner we can rectify our own mess. The country is in a terrifying state.

Greens are just socialists/communist by another name. Yet more socialism means more public debt - whether it be from bailing out bankers or profligate wasteful public spending will not solve our problems.

No, the Greens are way better than UKIP. They have actual plans to create work, reduce poverty and support the vulnerable. They have some really interesting policies and I'm really glad they made some progress in the last election, though it'll be a long time before I have a Green MP, I bet.

I want out of Europe. I want the money saved to be used to down national debt and front line public services saved. At least Nigel Farage says it how it really is. I cant say that of other leaders.

I feel really really despondent at the state we are in. I am sick of the lack of honesty. I am sick of the richest people in society undeservedly getting richer (whether it be bankers, senior civil servants, heads of charities, chief executives or local council leaders). I am sick of the lack of courage from our political leaders.

UKIP aren't very bright though.

Agree, politically speaking it was a major flaw of DC to make that promise, which he must have known he couldn't keep.

On the other hand, this country is broke to a pant-wettingly scary degree.

Bloody hell BeenBeta I thought you were a true blue.

Why UKIP though? Just a strategic thing (exodus from Tories but not wanting to assist lib dem or labour vote) or do you have sympathies with their ideology?

I totally agree with the OP and others. He and his government are disgusting. Blaming the 'deficit' and the free spending previous asministration in order to sweep through life and make ideological changes to suit the conservative determination to destroy the welfare state.

Oh yes, UKIP would have been much better

I voted Tory at the last election and at every election since I was eighteen.

Never again.

I will vote UKIP if I am still in the country. Utterly disgusted at what is happening.

I agree about using his son. It was awful! I remember thinking at the time, no you do not have a clue. How low can one go?
But even Tories hate him and think he is snake but he was their only hope of power. The only person that likes him si Clegg.

dotnet. I so hope Denis Healy is correct. I've never hated someone as much as I hate David Cameron and Nick Clegg. It's only the Lib Dems that can bring this government down and they don't look like they are going to .

hi all

just read on the scope website that the government plan to abolish dla and replace it with somthing called a pip.

kittycat37 I am sorry for your situation (and for yours as well, herbietea.
For the first few months of this govt, I wondered if, perhaps, we were not going to be governed by The Nasty Party after all. It looked as if they were going to take a 'softly softly' approach. Well, derrr...
I didn't - wouldn't have - voted for them. And thank goodness I didn't vote LibDem either.
Yes, I'm utterly appalled by Cameron. I bitterly resent his determination to turn university into grown up public school. We shuld be way beyond the 1940s and 1950s, not turning the clock back to a time when a good education was all but closed to the working class.
The DLA thing, too... dreadful. I heard that a local school which takes in around 100 severely handicapped kids, looks like having to axe their occasional outings,thanks to the cuts.
Wow, this is all such a massive and horrific contrast to Labour days. Pension credit, Winter fuel payments, minimum wage, Warmfront heating grants, child tax credit, working tax credit, child trust funds, EMA, free bus travel for pensioners, Surestart - all of these were introduced by the last govt, I think (or most of them anyway.) I'm guessing at least 50% of the population benefited one way or another from what Labour did.
I truly believe DC has NO IDEA how ordinary people think.

For instance, what is all this business which came up recently about 'poor' students possibly getting two years' worth of tuition fees paid for? Who does DC think the 'poor' students are?
Nearly ALL of them, that's who. Most students, unlike the kids from the families with whom he probably mixes - DON'T have independent incomes. Nearly all students are 'poor' in that sense. So even if students from homes with an income of under £15K, say - were helped by having two thirds of their tuition paid for - that STILL leaves children of average income households in deep debt.
Takver, on another 'Politics' thread, Do we really neeed to make so many cuts? supplies two links which make interesting reading. The articles are written from a leftish standpoint. You'll find them on the first page of the thread, Monday 17 Jan at 19:40.

If I try to come up with things introduced by Conservative governments which have been helpful to ordinary people, only two spring to mind (and one of those, I'm not at all clear about.)

i) John Major introduced the 'rent a room' scheme whereby people can have someone living in their house and paying rent to a certain level, without the landlord having to pay tax on the rental income. That was a helpful move for a lot of people.
ii) Edward Heath introduced the over eighties pension (that's the one I'm unclear about.)

I realise the Tories may have introduced other measures helpful to ordinary people - it's just I can't think of many.

Yes, we're now ruled by The Nasty Party again.
Denis Healy reckons this govt will last another year.

Something to cling on to, maybe?