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Did you vote Conservative?

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ampere · 07/01/2011 10:52

Do you regret it or do you think the government are doing what they said on their tin?

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imablackstarnotapopstar · 31/05/2017 08:21

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Fairysnuff321 · 22/05/2017 09:55

Does everyone feel the same now?

GabbyLoggon · 24/01/2011 16:23

I like the way FatherBrian put his views in the long post. Classic.

That said, Sky boss wants Andy Gray to wear a frock for his next broadcast.

(A 3 hour phone in was devoted to that last night. A bit OTT but it brings in the calls)
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cheers "Gabby"

MollysChambers · 24/01/2011 16:07

Why thank you 40sdiva, my wee Celtic cousin!

40sdiva · 24/01/2011 13:47

Another Standing ovation here for Fatherbrianeno!!!

My Nation Wales was badly damaged under Thatcher in the 80's. They are still recovering, or were! Areas in West Wales and the Valleys consistently fall at the bottom of the UK league when it comes to life expectancy,
educational attainment and skills,etc. Some areas were depopulating and were sitting on the edge of viability. The new Tory axe could finish them off completely.
I however live in the South of the country, though better, things are far from good here either, we were looking forwards to some regeneration in the form of Jobs which would have come from the proposed Defence Academy a St Athens, and the proposed Severn Barrage both huge projects that would have generated jobs in other areas too. Both have been axed due to the economic climate, however the economic climate is not that bad that the Government are going to axe the building of 8 new nuclear stations in Bradwell, Essex; Heysham, Lancashire; Hinkley Point, Somerset; Oldbury, Gloucestershire; Sellafield, Cumbria; Sizewell, Suffolk; Wylfa, Isle of Anglesey; and Hartlepool.
Wow ! One in Wales, the only crumb from the Tory Table.

PS. MollysChambers toasting you here with a cup of Glengettie tea ! Grin

imright · 24/01/2011 13:15

Scotland is NOT a nation. Very welcome to become one! Don't take England's money with you when you do it!

Sauchiehall St? Oh yes the main shopping street of Glasgow!

Oh yes 'Smallwhitecat' you had better watch your tongue! As Glasgow is the 'stab capital of Europe' and one may find a pointed instrument up your jacksy!

I would never vote Tory, they are too left wing and PC! I'd rather vote UKIP.

Grin
Heroine · 24/01/2011 11:58

Oh yes and the banks join in- if you are wealthy and want to borrow thousands to send your kids through private school, you pay typically less than 6% on that loan. If you are poor and you borrow money, the typical rate is 28- 36%. People at the bottom are borrowing money to hide the fact that their employers are paying them less than living costs - people at the top are borrowing money that makes them more money - typically by investing their money in businessses who make money by paying staff at the bottom too little to live on.. Are you getting it yet??

Heroine · 24/01/2011 11:54

Re north sea profits - they wouldn't have been extracted at all if it were left solely up to scottish companies..

Heroine · 24/01/2011 11:54

Tory philosphy involves a massive blind spot. Its much easier to determine your life choices, make sensible decisions, earn more, look after yourself, etc if you have more resources to start with. Most 'survival of the fittest' types recoil in horror if you suggest (as socialists do) that the starting point is equal, which would really determine the fittest and best. What the tories really advocate is 'increased development opportunity for those who already have the resources at the moment, but we'll let some people in who didn't have money to start with as long as they have made enough money to look like one of us (i.e have shafted more people than we thought feasible with our already stacked cards).

Its a buggers muddle it really is. Anyone can choose the job they want and the education they want if they can a) live for free whilst they do so b) get paid a lot when they get there and c) are helped over any difficult patches by the other wealthy people they know.

Choosing to change jobs so you can make a greater contribution when you can't even afford a month off in case you lose the house you have been paying for for ten years, and need to keep relentlessy paying for for another 15, and can't quite get tot he end of the month because you gave in and had breakfast at wetherspoons.

I don't think tories really udnerstand how stacked things are - if you haven't gone to a school that gave you fake 'leadership' experience, that you can't put on your CV EVEN IF YOU HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP SKILLS you are likely to not be given a leadership role you are paid for until 10 years later.. y which time those who did, will have '10 years professional leadership experience' - when people are working hand to mouth through college and in their first six jobs (typical amongst the low-waged), its hard to then jump to a tory-level professional job EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS AND ATTRIBUTES so its not all about will, drive, ability, choice etc. It IS for people whose families are constituted of people with spare income every month, but it ISN't for those who don't.

GabbyLoggon · 24/01/2011 11:36

No I dont vote Tory....

I think their present Home Secretary was right when she referred to her party as the "Nasty party"

There are individual famous Tories I can tolerate.But not vote for them.

KnittedBreast · 24/01/2011 11:22

hmm, no i didnt vote for the tories and i never will. Id rather sell my own arse.

MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 17:02

Newwave - That bloody woman has a lot to answer for. No doubt wee white pussy will be along momentarily to proclaim his adoration.

electra · 21/01/2011 16:49

No, at best their ideology is flawed and at worst they are unprincipled fascists. No way will I ever vote for them.....

MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 16:41

Oh is it not? Wanna stand on Sauchiehall St and say that? Go on, I double dare you. Wink

smallwhitecat · 21/01/2011 16:32

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newwave · 21/01/2011 15:32

Molly, :o :o

How about all the North sea profits being returned to Scotland, Thatcher spent most of them in the South East whilst ravaging Scotland and the North.

MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 14:38

I feel no need to justify the existance of my nation within the United Kingdom to you as, frankly, I couldn't care less if you are unhappy with the Union as it stands.

Sincere apologies if I have offended you by suggesting you may be inclined to vote Tory. I should have known better as I would certainly be very upset if someone suggested that I would do such a thing. I at no point suggested that you may be a fully paid up member however. That would be a vicious slur on anyones character and I could never stoop so low, even with the anonymity of the internet to hide behind.

smallwhitecat · 21/01/2011 14:21

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MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 10:01

Gosh the ignorance and bigotry of the Tory party in action.

smallwhitecat · 21/01/2011 09:53

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MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 09:46

Actually I think you'll find we pay taxes too.

smallwhitecat · 21/01/2011 09:40

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MollysChambers · 21/01/2011 09:30

No I did not vote Tory.

I'm Scottish.

It's against the law to vote Tory in Scotland.

As it should be.

Have never been more grateful for devolution. Affords us some protection..

magicbutterfly · 21/01/2011 09:14

What is most selfish of all is Labour racking up debts for this generation that the next five, at least, will have to pay off.

Longfingernails. And the present government have carried on borrowing even more money without creating one single new job.

fatherbrianeno · 21/01/2011 08:24

Fair enough, I needed to say 'cuts' rather than 'deficit'.

www.johannhari.com/2011/01/17/you-pay-your-taxes-or-go-to-prison-unless-you-are-super-rich-or-a-corporation

But you can't deny that the Tories are letting these people off huge amounts. If you don't even believe the well known point about Vodafone then just Google the words Vodafone 6 billion.

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