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Thatcher, the worst Prime Minister Britain ever had.

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ivanhoe · 10/12/2010 19:16

Thatcher wrecked British manufacturing industry and devastated whole areas of Britain by her obsession with high interest rates.

Under her rule crime rates soared. The Health Service was wrecked. Before she came to power it was the best in the world. After 11 years of her rule it was the worst in the developed world.

Britain's mental hospitals were closed and their inhabitants dumped on to the streets of our cities to be a menace both to themselves and to the general public.

All forms of physical punishment were banned in schools, thus wrecking the education system for ordinary people.

Thatcher crucified the Health Service and was responsible for a number of equally wretchedly mean actions, such as abolishing the Wages Councils and making various cuts in welfare benefits. And breaking the State pensions link with national average wages

Margaret Thatcher also ruined the Social structure of this country by stopping the building of Social housing during her Premiership.

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ivanhoe · 26/12/2010 22:48

//////because no-one can remember the time when he and his fellow nutjobs were genuinely a threat.//////

Utter rubbish, and im a Conservative.

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ivanhoe · 26/12/2010 22:44

Sorry. 1982.

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ivanhoe · 26/12/2010 22:43

The Falkland Islands belonged to Argentina, Thatcher had no right sticking her jumped up evil nose in, but true to British style in taking over the world, she did, and it won her the general election in 1992.

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MadamDeathstare · 24/12/2010 13:05

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smallwhitecat · 24/12/2010 12:57

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claig · 24/12/2010 12:52

agree smallwhitecat, that the media does play them up as quasi-saints. Norman Tebbitt will never receive the same media treatment.

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Niceguy2 · 24/12/2010 08:20

And everyone knows that the Falklands War was a publicity stunt invented by Thatcher to rekindle interest in her flagging career-started by sinking an "enemy" ship in its own territory

claig · 23/12/2010 18:38

'I always wonder about those who claim they're going to dance on her grave'

You should listen to phone-in talk shows about Thatcher. You would be shocked by how many progressives ring up baying for blood and talking about dancing on her grave. It gives a fascinating, if sickening, insight into the progressive mind. You never, ever hear any conservatives saying similar things about any left wing leader such as Michael Foot or anyone else.

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biryani · 23/12/2010 17:13

She destroyed what we always thought of as "society". She sancioned the selling off of property which was in public ie OUR hands, such as water, energy etc. She also sancioned the selling of social housing cheaply and did not replace it, thus destroying the notion of the "respectable" working class and leaving the underclass to fester in sink estates no one wants to buy. And everyone knows that the Falklands War was a publicity stunt invented by Thatcher to rekindle interest in her flagging career-started by sinking an "enemy" ship in its own territory. And we want to honour this harridan with a state funeral!

Niceguy2 · 21/12/2010 10:37

I'm going to have to disagree. If Thatcher was such a evil old cow, how come every prime minister following her always invites her to No10 as soon as they get into power? And that includes his Tonyness and el Gordo?

Thatcher didn't wreck manufacturing, it was already wrecked. Destroyed by the unions with their ridiculous pay demands and working practices. All she did was withdraw the huge unsustainable state subsidies propping up uncompetitive businesses. In other words she just stopped delaying the inevitable.

The NHS? Actually during her time funding increased year on year. The arguments against were basically along the lines of "its not enough". Well wind on to New Labour's reign and despite a MASSIVE increase in real terms of expenditure, little has changed. What happened was they all gave themselves payrises and wasted billions on new IT equipment and a project which noone wanted. What Thatcher realised is that simply giving more money was not the answer. So much of her reforms revolved around making the NHS into smaller units and more competitive. Traits which have served the rest of the economy well.

She was the best prime minister of our time and many of her lessons have been adopted to the point now where there's little difference between the Tories & Labour. The only differences nowadays are on presentation. The last 13 years of New Labour did not reverse any of the trade union laws, nor did they revitalise the manufacturing sector. In many ways they carried on with her legacy. The only thing Labour completely failed to do was to live within our means.

If you want to go and live in a socialist utopia, then feel free to emigrate to the likes of Cuba and North Korea. The last remaining true socialist countries. Even the socialist giants like Russia & China have seen the light. Whilst capitalism isn't fantastic, its a lot better than the alternatives.

Notevenamouse · 20/12/2010 12:15

I know it was a terrible time. My mother worked full time for the NHS. She also looked after all of her children and a mother with dementia and never claimed any benefit. Nevertheless, Thatcher made our lives a misery, her job was hell and we had nothing. People spat on her in the street for being a "single mum" thanks to the hatred Thatcher spread. Worse happened but I won't post it here. I have a terrible fear of that hatred returning.

I will never forget having to wear a hat and my coat in lessons at school because the rain came in. I can remember one of my teachers sobbing with their head in their hands during the teaching strikes. Life was hell for the majority. It is a shame people have such short memories. Before we know it we will have returned to those days.

ivanhoe · 20/12/2010 10:13

//// I was the child of a single mother during the 80s we had barely any food or heat.//////

Thatcher supporters particularly would say the followin,-

  1. Your mum should not have had children if she could not afford to look after them.
  1. There are lways jobs for those "who Want to work.

This is the narrow mindedness that has been running Britain since the 80's particularly, when Thatcher demonised the welfare State, the unemployed, the homeless, the single parent, and the elderly.

Just like Hitler demonised the jews and other ethnic minorities.

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ivanhoe · 19/12/2010 20:41

//////I was agreeing with you. I was at the poll tax demonstrations. I was the child of a single mother during the 80s we had barely any food or heat. She was evil. I never once thought she lacked intelligence though, just a heart and soul, unlike Cameron. There was no need to be so rude.///////

Please accept my apologise.

Thatcher was indeed an evil old cow. Cameron is no different.

Again im sorry for being rude.

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Notevenamouse · 19/12/2010 13:40

I was agreeing with you. I was at the poll tax demonstrations. I was the child of a single mother during the 80s we had barely any food or heat. She was evil. I never once thought she lacked intelligence though, just a heart and soul, unlike Cameron. There was no need to be so rude.

Notevenamouse · 19/12/2010 13:35

Yes ?

ivanhoe · 19/12/2010 13:00

///////what is your problem /////sheeeeeesh///////////////

You have to ask ?

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Notevenamouse · 19/12/2010 11:07

what is your problem /////sheeeeeesh//////

ivanhoe · 18/12/2010 19:27

////////purepurple Sat 18-Dec-10 16:52:13
ivanhoe, I am with you on everything you say, except (without the /////)
Have you got a bottle of champagne ready for celebrating when she drops off this mortal coil? I have (ok, it's fizzy wine, not champange, but it's the thought that counts, right?)////////

RIGHT.

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Notevenamouse · 18/12/2010 16:54

What is with the ///// anyway. I don't really understand why you were rude to me TBH

purepurple · 18/12/2010 16:52

ivanhoe, I am with you on everything you say, except (without the /////)
Have you got a bottle of champagne ready for celebrating when she drops off this mortal coil? I have (ok, it's fizzy wine, not champange, but it's the thought that counts, right?)

ivanhoe · 18/12/2010 16:44

///////Ivanhoe. You keep saying people are 'thick' I feel that it is not that people are 'thick' but they lie in their comfort zones and cannot be interested in politics, even though politics and the political elite affect their everyday lives. The benefits culture does have an impact on the economy and people think they can have 'something for nothing'. Taxpayers have to pay for them.

Thatcher, it is true did wreck the manufacturing industry,(we live with the impact of that today) but as previously said, the Labour party has done far worse, and Blair must rate the worst Priminister ever.

The reason this country is in the state it is because too many are infatuated with X Factor and football. If the hordes that attend and support football (thousands) showed us much fervour for politics that they do football, then the country would not be in this mess, for a raft of reasons.

Women sadly are also to blame. Most women I know I not in the least interested in politics, let alone any activism in that area./////////

I completely agree with your version of things.

My old granny used to say to me that the only thing the Britih care about is booze and fags

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Notevenamouse · 18/12/2010 16:28

ivanhoe i don't understand your comment to me.

Beaaware · 18/12/2010 13:26

I remember the Thatcher era for the BSE crisis in particular, I remember our ministers telling us that beef was safe to eat and it was not possible for mad cow disease to pass onto humans. I now know that Thathcer & her ministers were lying to us. It is indeed the case that mad cow disease can be passed from animals to humans and today we still see the legacy of Thatcher decisions today, people in 2010 are dying from vCJD the human form of mad cow disease. This is what one journalist has said about Thatcher & her ministers

"BSE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CYNICAL ACT OF BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EVER WAGED AGAINST A CIVILIAN POPULATION BY A WESTERN GOVERNMENT, THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT PUT THE NARROW BUSINESS INTERESTS OF ITS FARMING INDUSTRIES BEFORE THE HEALTH OF ITS OWN POPULATION, AND THAT OF OTHER COUNTRIES"

who would have thought that 25 years on we would still be reading about people dying from this horrendous brain wasting disease, I think of Andrew Black who at 24 years of age died in 2007, why? what had he consumed, what vaccines was he given, someone was responsible for his death, he was'nt born with mad cow disease, look up www.justiceforandy.com, many families are silenced and do not speak out when a loved one dies from vCJD, but bravely Christine Lord (Andrews mum) is speaking out and telling the truth.