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Politics

Thatcher, the worst Prime Minister Britain ever had.

218 replies

ivanhoe · 10/12/2010 19:16

Thatcher wrecked British manufacturing industry and devastated whole areas of Britain by her obsession with high interest rates.

Under her rule crime rates soared. The Health Service was wrecked. Before she came to power it was the best in the world. After 11 years of her rule it was the worst in the developed world.

Britain's mental hospitals were closed and their inhabitants dumped on to the streets of our cities to be a menace both to themselves and to the general public.

All forms of physical punishment were banned in schools, thus wrecking the education system for ordinary people.

Thatcher crucified the Health Service and was responsible for a number of equally wretchedly mean actions, such as abolishing the Wages Councils and making various cuts in welfare benefits. And breaking the State pensions link with national average wages

Margaret Thatcher also ruined the Social structure of this country by stopping the building of Social housing during her Premiership.

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ajandjjmum · 22/01/2011 16:43

And from where did you obtain this 'political fact' ivanhoe?

UnquietDad · 22/01/2011 16:35

I fail to see why any party would "want" a large number of people on benefits, draining the resources of the country - and being a burden on the middle-class taxpayers who might be expected to be a centre-right party's natural supporters.

PigTail · 22/01/2011 15:59

"All forms of physical punishment were banned in schools, thus wrecking the education system for ordinary people."

Well, fuck me, Thatcher actually did some good!

ivanhoe · 22/01/2011 15:53

It is a political fact that "the right wing" dont want people working, they want people on benefits where they cxanb be controlled.

This is called a right wing fascist dictatership.

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ajandjjmum · 22/01/2011 15:27

Thatcher didn't want people working?

Now that's a policy I didn't think anyone would be elected on.

ivanhoe · 22/01/2011 12:57

////////I'm not really old enough to remember Thatcher but its indisputable that the country couldn't carry on as it was in the 1970s. The economy had needed support from the IMF had very high inflation and was still made up of nationalised primary industries, that sort of economy struggled then, in the modern globalised world it would be dead.////////////

The country had high inflation, and the reason for this was that people were in real jobs.

Thatcher didnt want people working, so she massivelly reduced the work force via policies to create mass unemployment ie privatisation , and inward compertition running down wages ect.

Yes we had the winter of discontent, strikes ect.

But arent working people in Britain allowed to strike for better pay and conditions.

The big problem with Britain has always been that the people dont stand togther. The working man and woman are there own worse enemy.

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UnquietDad · 22/01/2011 12:23

lol at "he" - no Freudian slip, just a typo!!

UnquietDad · 22/01/2011 12:22

Political tribalism always goes the same way. I was no fan of Mrs Thatcher, but when he dies I intend to steer clear of the internet for a few days - as I just know that on here, on Facebook and elsewhere there will be otherwise good people stooping to a level of vituperative spite and childishness which is really quite breathtaking.

I always find the Left has more genuine hatred for the Right than the Right does for the Left.

ajandjjmum · 22/01/2011 12:15

For those who think that we are not sufficiently interested in politics as a nation, read through some of the nastiness and personal insults on this thread, and it might just explain why.

If some of these posters are representative of 'political' people, no wonder the sane amongst us steer clear.

huddspur · 22/01/2011 12:11

I'm not really old enough to remember Thatcher but its indisputable that the country couldn't carry on as it was in the 1970s. The economy had needed support from the IMF had very high inflation and was still made up of nationalised primary industries, that sort of economy struggled then, in the modern globalised world it would be dead.

RustyBear · 22/01/2011 12:03

Lord North, anyone? Grin

ivanhoe · 22/01/2011 11:58

///////I lived through the Labour government before Thatcher.///////

I also lived through Labour and left of centre Conservative Government's before Thatcher's right wing greed and selfishness took over in 1979.

I left school aged 15 in the 60's, and was never ever unemployed, or faced with the threat of unemployment via decent Conservative and Labour Governmnent's.

Anybody who kisses Thatcher's feet needs a brain transplant. And I mean that.

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ivanhoe · 22/01/2011 11:54

////Her record speaks for itself/////

It certainly does. ( Garbage )

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ivanhoe · 22/01/2011 11:53

Thatcher created a so-called good conomy by the deliberate creation of a massive rich and poor devide including creating well over 3 million unemployed, the very same as Thatcherite Cameron is achieving now.

Thatcher turned Britain into a "get rich quick" "grab it all" now nation.

In short Thatcher turned Britain into a despot immoral nation, void of commpassion, and I doubbt we will ever recover thanks to Blair and Brown wasting 13 years keeping her legacy going.

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Deciduousblonde · 21/01/2011 12:16

Her record speaks for itself though. She inherited an economy that had needed an IMF bailout with an inflation rate of 12%. Many of the industries were nationalised and wholly inefficient. She got a grip on inflation and put an end to the wasteful industries whilst destroying the unions whos actions had hurt the country for so long

Indeed.

She inherited a crappy economy & made it good. Blair inherited a good economy & spent it all..then borrowed more.

Cameron has to do the same as Thatcher did with what he has left. Only it will take years, not months.

Deciduousblonde · 21/01/2011 12:09

I lived through the Labour government before Thatcher.

It was wonderful..everyone was working, industry was booming, no crime on the streets, everyone had enough money to live on..etc etc etc.

No. Not really. I can't back that up. It was SHIT!

HalleLouja · 21/01/2011 09:49

Actually at least Maggie Thatcher never lied about who she was unlike the slime we have in the moment. Not that I won't be dancing on her grave when the time comes. Well might join on pissing on her grave.

I read Andrew Marr's History of Modern Britain and he seemed to respect her. Apparently he is really left wing too Hmm

newwave · 21/01/2011 01:16

"Dance on her grave" personally I would piss on it if I had the chance, she should be buried head down in salted earth in an unmarked grave even better if she was still alive when it was done.

I hope we have a bank holiday when she dies, those that want can can mourn her and the rest of us can:

PARTY PARTY PARTY.

ivanhoe · 20/01/2011 22:28

The British today have no backbone, we put up with everything.

Unless of course things effect us personally.

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Niceguy2 · 28/12/2010 08:58

Mycounty, I wouldn't worry about Ivanhoe. He/she obviously is a fully paid up member of socialist worker, despite claiming to be a tory.

mycounty · 27/12/2010 23:09

Ivanhoe. Are you saying that the people of this country deserved to be treated like the 'scum of the world?'
Hardly.

We as a people have not been able to stop what governments have done to us.

The British are a great people, who have been let down very badly by various governments. I feel the British people, should be much more involved in politics and they are not.
This country has changed irreparably, many have emigrated 475.000 last year, this does not make us 'scum' far from it. We have been treated very poorly and we are pissing off in our thousands! For a better life.Sad

ivanhoe · 27/12/2010 20:18

The way government's have treated it's own people since the 80's, we deserve to be treated like the scum of the world.

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Niceguy2 · 27/12/2010 16:54

The Falkland Islands belonged to Argentina,

ivanhoe · 26/12/2010 22:58

///////You never, ever hear any conservatives saying similar things about any left wing leader such as Michael Foot or anyone else.//////

This is because no Labour leader ever brought in policies to deliberately creat not only millions of unemployed, but also deprivation throughout this country.

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ivanhoe · 26/12/2010 22:50

//////'I always wonder about those who claim they're going to dance on her grave'

You should listen to phone-in talk shows about Thatcher. You would be shocked by how many progressives ring up baying for blood and talking about dancing on her grave. It gives a fascinating, if sickening, insight into the progressive mind. You never, ever hear any conservatives saying similar things about any left wing leader such as Michael Foot or anyone else.///////

I wouldnt be shocked, and they are right, and im a Conservative.

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