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NUS thugs must be arrested and thrown out of their unis

113 replies

longfingernails · 10/11/2010 17:11

Criminal damage, arson, assualt - even attempted murder (throwing a fire extinguisher into the crowd from the roof). This is unacceptable behaviour.

I am disappointed that the police didn't have a grip on the situation.

The only good thing to come out of all this is that it will totally undermine support for the NUS and Labour. The new solution isn't perfect but takes all the important steps. It is a vast improvement on the current situation.

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madamimadam · 10/11/2010 23:02

OP, I actually think you're Harriet Harman letting her hair down with some Tory roleplay...

claig · 10/11/2010 22:36

I think we only have about 477,277 UK students. I wonder how many China has?

claig · 10/11/2010 22:14

I think university education is free in China, with its millions of students. Go figure.

MoreSpamThanGlam · 10/11/2010 22:13

Isnt it nice that Cameron is thinking about lowering fees for Chinese students and fuck us lot.

claig · 10/11/2010 22:12

I'm not surprised. Labour would have done the same.

Does anyone know how many billions are involved if we made university education free?

legostuckinmyhoover · 10/11/2010 22:09

just watched it Confused

Remotew · 10/11/2010 21:32

It was great to see so many of the students gathered today, most of whom won't personally be subject to the proposed hike in fees. It needs people to care about future school leavers. Shame it got out of hand but a point needed to be made.

legostuckinmyhoover · 10/11/2010 21:23

ladyblahblah, have you got a link? that's shocking.

legostuckinmyhoover · 10/11/2010 21:20

i would suggest to anyone who thinks that this amount of debt is alright to have at the start of your adult life...go and try it, try living with that burden of debt and stress...not just for a year but for YEARS and YEARS.

legostuckinmyhoover · 10/11/2010 21:14

imo, i can't see this undermining support for labour. in fact i can't see it undermining support for the NUS either.

everyone knows that it was mostly a peaceful demonstration, and a demonstration for a very worthy cause.

i am so glad that the young in our society can see how these proposals are so unfair and wrong and i am glad they are trying to do something about it. good for them and good on the NUS!

LadyBlaBlah · 10/11/2010 21:05

Did I dream it today or did David "cap immigration because it is the root of all evil" Conmaneron actually say that the rise in tuition fees for UK citizens will help Chinese students to come and study in England because it will lower prices for them?

I am sure I must be mistaken because again that would be staggering hypocrisy, an insult to people in this country and furthermore do nothing "to get us out of this unholy mess that Labour left us in" Hmm

Although on the other hand it would be a vacuous, idiotic and play-to-the-audience without conviction thing to say, so is probably true.

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 10/11/2010 21:03

Any destabilization of society is desirable up them Anastasia. But I agree, often trouble makers at protests don't even bother to claim any political allegiance, and are just there for a fight.
Nus certainly will not have condoned or organised the disorder-by the sounds of it the Nus/police briefing prior today did not include this level of violence/attack on property hence the police being caught out. A peaceful (but shouty) march has been the aim.

LoopyLoops · 10/11/2010 20:35

OP, what have teachers unions to do with this?

anastaisia · 10/11/2010 20:26

so they aren't actually anarchists then. Just hooligans...

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 10/11/2010 20:25

They are there for the fight not for the cause, just as football hooligans dont care about the match.

anastaisia · 10/11/2010 20:23

why would anarchists against state spending be protesting against cuts to state spending?

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 10/11/2010 20:19

Sorry hoodies/red/black are rent a anarchist in dh's experience

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 10/11/2010 20:17

Dh has been on a number of protests - you seethe hoodies in red and black surge forward, and cause trouble. They are there no matter what. SWP always have a presence but they wouldn't condone violence. I saw the coaches go this morning-alot of staff and proactive students, not people out to fight police (though burning placards, maybe)

Isn't it time we started to protest against these plans? Why the apathy? I don't condone the violence but thank goodness students are actually protesting about something!!

sprogger · 10/11/2010 19:27

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weblette · 10/11/2010 19:25

Oh I had a little bet with myself that I could guess who the OP of this would be without even opening the thread Grin

allegrageller · 10/11/2010 19:24

morespam, the facebook group Nobody Likes a Tory has come up with the same solution! Workshy 'fake disabled' to go and clean up! Problem solved...

allegrageller · 10/11/2010 19:23

seashells is quite right.
I am appalled at the media coverage of what was an exceptionally good humoured and peaceful gathering. The protest itself was simply not violent. I personally believe that a few troublemakers hijacked the protest- and i doubt that all of them are students. Some may be. This does not create a precedent to write off the NUS as criminal thugs. We cannot however legislate for hideous right wing prejudice, so I suspect that only the unwise few students who got involved in the attempted occupation of Millbank will get criminal records...

longfingernails · 10/11/2010 19:20

MoreSpamThanGlam Of course students won't like it, but what is the alternative, given there is less than no money left?

I would personally cut the proportion of people going to university down - the 50% target is very silly.

A true "graduate tax" won't work, by the way. Smart people in Labour realise that:

labour-uncut.co.uk/2010/11/10/sadly-its-a-graduate-tax-that-is-stupid-not-vince-cable/

The question that Labour just can't answer: "What would you do?"

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mamatomany · 10/11/2010 19:20

The real students hadn't got out of bed til noon so they had an alibi.