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NUS thugs must be arrested and thrown out of their unis

113 replies

longfingernails · 10/11/2010 17:11

Criminal damage, arson, assualt - even attempted murder (throwing a fire extinguisher into the crowd from the roof). This is unacceptable behaviour.

I am disappointed that the police didn't have a grip on the situation.

The only good thing to come out of all this is that it will totally undermine support for the NUS and Labour. The new solution isn't perfect but takes all the important steps. It is a vast improvement on the current situation.

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allegrageller · 12/11/2010 18:47

bad luck LFN, the government are so broke they're even cutting prison funding! sentences are going to plummet!

you see, this government can't even please hard line right wingers.

longfingernails · 12/11/2010 18:26

It seems the person arrested for throwing the extinguisher was 23. Hardly a small boy in the first flush of youth!

An example should be made of him. If he is guilty, I hope he doesn't see freedom before he is 35.

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gingercat12 · 12/11/2010 17:44

Can I just say that fees for Chinese students will always be higher as non-EU citizens?

Has Dave any idea abot higher education and its workings at all?

kate1956 · 12/11/2010 16:39

What a pile of rubbish - why not call for real murderers to be brought to account eg the copper who killed Ian Tomlinson! Throwing a fire extinguisher was stupid and dangerous and that's why it was the students themselves that put a stop to it - once again here are the real students who are to blame!

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longfingernails · 12/11/2010 14:54

Trying to justify attempted murder is just wrong. There is no excuse. None. The evil perpetrator who tried to murder the brave riot police should face the full weight of the law, and be sentenced to at least 10 years.

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dotnet · 12/11/2010 14:23

The suffragettes caused criminal damage when their blood was up. They were good people and we should be proud of our students as well.

The boy who threw the fire extinguisher was a fool and dangerous - but
I bet he's a boy, not a man, and got (dangerously) carried away. The Daily Mail is pressing for him to be charged with attempted murder! Bollocks. But it IS still lucky he didn't kill someone; he could be facing a manslaughter charge.

Does anyone else think it was a jolly good thing that the police presence was 'inadequate'? Nobody got killed, unlike that unfortunate newspaper seller at the G20 demonstration in the summer. And he wasn't killed by people voicing their protest, but by our forces of law and order, was he not?

vesela · 11/11/2010 19:34

We haven't been in credit for about 400 years, so I'm unsure whether the plan is to go back to the situation as it was then.

WhoKnew2010 · 11/11/2010 14:59

LFN

oh really, and what happens when we're back in credit. will students have to pay privately for higher education then?

sethstarkaddersmum · 11/11/2010 11:27

''Did I dream it today or did David "cap immigration because it is the root of all evil" Conmaneron actually say that the rise in tuition fees for UK citizens will help Chinese students to come and study in England because it will lower prices for them?'

I have mixed feelings about that. On the one hand it is appalling, hypocritical and insulting. On the other, thank goodness he realises that higher education is effectively one of our most successful export industries and China is a crucial expanding market. The way he's been handling the immigration issue made me wonder if he had actually noticed.

Litchick · 11/11/2010 11:23

And yes, HH was on top form yesterday.

Litchick · 11/11/2010 11:23

Oh the black flaggers always turn up at every demo...they are small in number, but super aggressive.

Remotew · 11/11/2010 09:47

Me too Custy, I dont condone the violence and am pleased that there wasn't anyone seriously injured, but am impressed with the strength of the demo. About time.

Thought HH was hilarious at PMQ yesterday. Good on her.

dotnet · 11/11/2010 08:22

I'm impressed that students, who have been quiescent for so long, have proved thay still have it in them to make their mark. I'm proud of them. This is an important matter.
As for the lad who threw the fire extinguisher - what a fool. It WAS lucky he didn't kill anyone, but now he's thinking straight again he'll definitely be regretting having been carried away so dangerously. Remember, he was one in 50,000.

sarah293 · 11/11/2010 07:32

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Tortington · 11/11/2010 00:54

i'm rather glad there was an uprising.

MaMoTTaT · 11/11/2010 00:53

Don't forget MolliO - that you can join NUS if you're attending college as well, or even doing distance learning........a

complimentary · 11/11/2010 00:06

Longfingernails. Him with secretary in office, leg-over, now that was really stomach churning! Grin I hope you didn't applaud him for that!

chippy47 · 11/11/2010 00:05

LFN. Gove is a fucking idiot Tory wet yes man with a personal agenda to look after number one at all times. And an annoying prick at the same time.
The lib dems are a disgrace -manifesto pledges should be legally binding as it is the basis of why people vote.
Nick Clegg personally signed the NUS pledge document that categorically stated their opposition to any, that is any, rise in tuition fees.
Last week, when it was announced, I listened to some Lib dem no mark trying to dress the rise up as something that was not an increase - £3k to £9k -because it would be recovered as a tax - people still have to pay it back you fecking dick. Disgrace ,disgrace ,disgrace, disgrace ad infinitum
And the expected job surge in the private sector is not going to happen. 65% (from memory) of the private company CEOs who backed the Tory cuts, in an open letter to the Times, have sanctioned redundancies and lay offs within their own companies within the past 12 months and are predicting more within the nect 12 months.
It does not add up and George Osborne (inexperienced public school no idea how the real world live twunt)should not be dictating a recovery plan that is doomed.

God that felt good!

MollieO · 11/11/2010 00:00

Those of you who think that these thugs weren't students should listen to Radio 5 now. They spoke to a student called Emmaline who was on the roof and condoned the break in and violence. If her mother is a MNetter she must be so proud of her dd Hmm.

Forturmately other sensible student called in and said they didn't agree with Emmaline and her type. According to her, breaking the law is the only way to protest. With that level of intellect I'm amazed she managed to enrol in a degree course in the first place.

longfingernails · 10/11/2010 23:57

complimentary On the contrary. Punching the egg-thrower is just about the only thing John Prescott ever did which I applauded him for.

It was obviously in self-defence - actually I think most people just said "good on him".

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complimentary · 10/11/2010 23:54

Longfingernails. You forget that our once deputy Priminster John Prescott was a right thug, he punched a man who threw an egg at him and still kept his job. lots, of lovely thugs in the Labour party.

complimentary · 10/11/2010 23:50

Riven that was not an outrageous slur, saying that Longfingernails is the Mail in person it was pure ignorance on your part! So what if longfingernails reads the Mail, Times, or any other paper.

I read the Mail and it's a bloody good read!

For those who say these are only 'people's children' I say they are 'adult' thugs, anyone who smashes windows and throws a fire extinquisher from a roof is a thug!

I bet that the socialist workers were in midst of this somewhere, these Marxist b'stards are always around and cause trouble at many demos.
If I could be the voice of any paper it would be the Sun, Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Star ( for the pin-ups ) my husband loves them! Lastly the Times or Telegraph.
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DuelingFanjo · 10/11/2010 23:44

Pfffft.

longfingernails · 10/11/2010 23:39

Oh - and I can categorically deny that Harriet Harman! Though I did think she did very well at PMQs today - she completely got the better of Clegg. The Labour coordination of questions was very impressive.

Unfortunately for Labour, the issue is now associated in the public mind with violent thugs.

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longfingernails · 10/11/2010 23:37

LoopyLoops Nothing - I got accused of being Michael Gove Hmm and a small side discussion developed from there.

LadyBlaBla He didn't say it would be cheaper for Chinese students. He said it would limit the rise in fees. One of the good side benefits of home students paying more will be that universities will discriminate less against home students - though there will still be a difference. At the moment, universities have strong preferences for foreign students, because they got more money, with less hassle.

madamimadam I do think we could shrink our police force dramatically (by at least 15-20%) , if we had a massive clearout of police paperwork and bureaucracy. The failure of the police today was because they didn't think a student demo would get out of control, despite the ugly history of violence at left-wing protests - nothing to do with operational capability.

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