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Depressed lefties - what now, is there any hope?

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electra · 12/10/2010 20:52

I hate what this government are doing. All the sh*t about 'if you're poor/disabled' we'll look after you - yeah right, by designing a test which tries to make people who are disabled look like they're not. Everything else too.

Do you think Ed Miliband will lessen the chances of us being stuck with the tories for another 5 years? I can't bear them.

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keepmumshesnotsodumb · 13/10/2010 13:12

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CatIsSleepy · 13/10/2010 13:10

i derive a sort of twisted amusement watching the libdems contort themselves trying to make their previous policies fit with the current coalition's policies- tuition fees etc.
they really are a useless shower of knobbers

am also quite pleased that the tories have so swiftly shown themselves to be a bunch of lying heartless bastards.
So we know where we stand then Grin

I have hopes for EdM and his team...

Hullygully · 13/10/2010 13:03
ISNT · 13/10/2010 13:02

Oh this looks like the place for me.

I'm going to stand over there, next to the large open window, with my flinging shoes on.

cinnamontoast · 13/10/2010 12:57

Gertorf, I went to see Chris Mullin do a talk and booksigning last week and I put a comment on your thread about him afterwards. He's a fabulous man and seems pretty happy in retirement. Found it quite sad the way he said that Labour had been able to push a bit more money towards the poor but had to do it by stealth so the more mean-minded Telegraph and Mail readers didn't notice. Am I being utterly naive to think we should be able to take pride in improving people's lot rather than hiding it? Esp as the rich are in the minority, so why do we have to kowtow to them politically so much. We need a much more politically active working class but it's difficult given that we have a) a Tory press and b) widespread cynicism about politics (could those two elements be linked by any chance?).

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:57

I read Chips Channon years ago, I lent it to my Ex MIl and she never gave it back (one of the myriad reasons that she will burn in hell)

Brilliant read.

claig · 13/10/2010 12:55

"I only ever read the excerpts in the papers. "

you got off lightly

Hullygully · 13/10/2010 12:55

Thank you, Proles.

Prolesworth · 13/10/2010 12:53

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tokyonambu · 13/10/2010 12:52

"God knows why Yvette Cooper didn't either. "

Quite. She'd have been outstanding. She's also not a serial traitor and back-stabber with a long history of putting personal feuds ahead of the interests of both party and country, like her husband.

"Diaries by minor politicians on the fringes when a party is in implode mode are always brilliant in my view"

We've all read the Chips Channon diaries, yes?

Hullygully · 13/10/2010 12:51

I only ever read the excerpts in the papers.

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:51

'in my view' twice. Apols for the pompous twat tone,.

tokyonambu · 13/10/2010 12:50

"I'm not sure that calling people mentalists and scum is better than calling them bigots."

You're welcome to think of a better word than "scum" for Margaret Moran. Or spring to her defence, indeed. Likewise for Labour's main business 1994--2008 being the self-indulgent disloyalty of a man unfit for office.

I am also not the elected leader of the united kingdom.

"Tokyo - didn'y you find the Chris Mullin diaries the most depressing read ever."

Only started them last night. So far, I am not cheered. At least Alan Clark was living well.

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:50

Both Chris Mullin diaries are excellent, in my view.

The first ones were a lot more jolly.

Diaries by minor politicians on the fringes when a party is in implode mode are always brilliant in my view (Alan Clarkm, Giles Brandreth (don't laugh)).

Hullygully · 13/10/2010 12:50

What demo?

Prolesworth · 13/10/2010 12:49

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GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:49

SORRY for the whole Al Jo and Ed Mil think (reducing politicians to teh status of minor slebs like J Lo and R Pats)

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:48

Sancti - I totall agree with you about Al Jo - I was rather flabbergasted when he didn't stand.

God knows why Yvette Cooper didn't either. Do you reckon they tossed a coin? She should have done a Ed Mil and thrown her hat in the ring at the last minute.

Hullygully · 13/10/2010 12:48

Eleison - v gd point. hehe

Eleison · 13/10/2010 12:47
Hullygully · 13/10/2010 12:47

Is the Mullin thing really essential reading?

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:46

Lol at hully's scurried gathering in of cunts Grin

Christ it didn't take long for this thread to unravel.

SanctiMoanyArse · 13/10/2010 12:45

For quite possibly the first and only time I agree with tokyo in that I don;t think GB could ever have been right for a job which is as much about charisma as anything else.

I rather like A J but he never went for that or teh leader role after the defeat. no doubt wisely. I personally suspect Ed gets the desert years then we find the True Leader (I did vote for Ed though so no disrespect to him, I think tehy were all in that place tbh).

His being ill suited to Leaderhip doesn;t necessarily detract from some good moves as Chancellor however.

GetOrfMoiLand · 13/10/2010 12:45

Tokyo - didn'y you find the Chris Mullin diaries the most depressing read ever.

It was like a drip drip drip of sheer exhausted and disenheartened misery, especially towards the end.

I admire Chris Mullin hugely, but the life just seemed to seep out of him. He should have stayed in parliament I reckon.

(sorry for hijack, nobody else I know has bloody read it and I thought about that book for weeks after I read it)