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Super soaker etiquette at parties

411 replies

tigermoth · 17/07/2008 19:22

Does this sound ok to you?

My ds2 age 8 has been invited to a classmate's party tomorrow (after school ends, last day of term).

The party will take place outdoors in a small park next to the school. (Host and helpers will take the whole class to the park after school ends in the afternoon - hurrah!)

I saw the host's mother yesterday to confirm arrangements. Ds1 begged to bring his large super soaker water pistol with him - and a spare one to give to someone else.

Host's mother and I had a quick talk and agreed it was ok as long as it was warm weather. But I am not sure if host's mother was agreeing under duress IYSWIM. Ds2 was being very insistent and I wonder if the mother was just being polite through gritted teeth?

I told ds2 in front of host's mum that she had my absolute permission to veto any super soaker activity on the day.

ds2 has come home from school today obsessed with super soaker plans. He has apparently got his teacher's permission to bring in bottles of water and store them, along with his two super soakers, in school for use at the party (as there is no water supply at the park). I keep reminding him that if it is cool or if children get upset, the water fight is off, but he seems to have his mind set on this.

I cannot contact host's mother - can't get her phone number and I am unlikely to see her tomorrow morning as she does not do the school drop off. So as it stands,
ds2 will arrive at school tomorrow complete with super soakers.

I plan to write a letter to host's mother re-iterating that she has my utter permission to ban super soakers and ds2 knows this. I will give this letter to ds2 to give to her at the beginning of the party. Ds2 knows I will check that he has given her the letter when I collect him.

It's the end of term, the party is outdoors, I don't want to put the dampers on ds2's plans but hmmm.... what would you think if you were the host's mother? Would you be ok with this?

PS Bit of extra background - some of the parents of ds2's classmates see him as a bit of a livewire, so from what I can gather, he tends not to get too many play date or party invites. This is the first class party he has been invited to for ages and I have told ds2 it's really important that he does what he is told by the host mother so the other parents will see he takes notice. At school, ds2 is reasonably well behaved - I never have to see his teachers about his behaviour, and as a rule he plays well in a group, but I know he will be running around in a frenzy of super soaker, end of term excitement.....

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Youcanthaveeverything · 19/07/2008 15:17

Water pistols - fun squirting others

Miserable being squited yourself

Unless it's a very hot day which makes it just about bearable and worth tolerating enough for the payoff of squirting others.

Being randomly squirted by the only 2 poeple with water pistols-not fun.

Honestly. Just beacuse people aren't crying when squirted doesn't mean they're not thinking 'i really wish they wouldn't do that' or even 'please just fuck off' whilst maintaining a fixed grin so as not to look like a good sport.

I found your reluctance to say no to your son quite concerning, and the fact that you had to fabricate reasons.

Sometimes just no, should suffice. But in this case there were good reasons that you should have been able to tell him.

It does make me think that there is a link between your reluctance to say no and him being a 'livewire' who rarely gets invited to parties.

Janus · 19/07/2008 14:31

God, where is everyone's sense of fun?? I would absolutely agree for super soaker and would only emphasis that he must share it if other people want a go. Similarly, if anyone tells him to stop, as you have told him, he must stop. I would have NO problem policing such a thing, if kids get upset (the wet farts) then just stop the water.
I will now run ...

silvermum · 19/07/2008 12:47

another message in support of Tigermoth here. No real views on suitability or otherwise of supersoaker at parties - my DS only 11 months so not quite got to that stage yet! - but don't think there was any cause for mean and judgemental responses, esp not the one equating "live wire" son to "pain in the arse." that's a pretty horrible thing to say to any mother, esp one who is just asking for views on a parenting dilemma.
hugs to you, tigermoth, if you feel hurt by some of the extraordinary responses to your quite reasonable original post.

serenity · 19/07/2008 12:04

Haven't actually given a view on this (and don't intend to, lol) but just want to say, water pistol to supersoaker is like air gun to AK47

Glad the party went well though.

WideWebWitch · 19/07/2008 09:44

Hi Tigermoth. I've just read this thread with increasing surprise as I went through it at how vehement people have been about sayng no to the super soakers.

Tbh, if, when my ds had been 8, there had been an end of term thing in a park and he had a water pistol and had asked me if he could take it then I'd have probably said yes, you can, without thinkng much about it. I also think children + water pistols + end of term + putdoor space is fine, actually. It wouldn't have occurred to me that it would be rude or outrageous or anything.

I do think people are sounding a bit precious about the whole 'children getting wet' business on this thread: small children aren't made of paper! I also think if the other mother did mind then she should have said so. If someone had asked me I'd have said 'it's fine' and I would have MEANT IT. None of us is mind readers so when we ask for a view we expect some honesty.

I know I'm the lone voice on this thread but I think it's indicative of how sheltered our children are these days and how uptight and controlling many, many mothers can be that the very idea of a water pistol in a park at the end of term on a summers say is so outrageous . I know it was a party but it wasn't an indoor party, it was hardly equivalent to saying "can I scribble on your Renoir?" was it? But many of these posts seem to view is at so. But maybe that's childhood these days? Or mumsnet these days? I don't know, I can only express my surprise and bewilderment.

When I was small water pistols were great fun .

I also think all the unpleasant and personal remarks were completely uncalled for. Those of you who made them should be ashamed of yourselves.

Tigermoth has been posting for many, many years (since mumsnet began) and I too have met her several times. As you can see from her calm responses on this thread, she is a reasonable person and she certainly didn't deserve the unpleasant remarks directed at her here.

But hey, it was too cold anyway and all's well that ended well but I really am quite at this thread.

lizinthesticks · 19/07/2008 07:33

"Was this a wind-up? The birthday girl wore a red bikini......in this weather?"

"too cool and overcast."

hunts for 'perplexed' smiley

sushistar · 19/07/2008 02:54

What a fabulous thread.

Tigermoth, you're unique. Do you work in a job which requires fiddly accuracy and chasing things up? You should!

All's well that ends well. And I bet BD girl didn't want to get her new bikini wet.

Your ds's games sound very inventive tigermoth...

onceinalifetime · 19/07/2008 02:13

Was this a wind-up? The birthday girl wore a red bikini......in this weather?

pointydog · 18/07/2008 23:06

Dodge City round here.

splish splosh

posieflump · 18/07/2008 22:24

pointydog - you truly are like a dog with a bone! You tal like round your way there are gangs of hoodlums with 'water guns' out to get you on every corner

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pointydog · 18/07/2008 21:54

haev you a lot of ecperience of water gun parties where only two people are armed, ever?

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posieflump · 18/07/2008 21:19

aw, Tigermoth, sorry to see you had such a hard time on this thread
who would have thought supersoakers would conjure up such a debate!
glad you and ds had a nice time

pointydog · 18/07/2008 21:11

"Trouble is, there's NEVER any etiquette when it comes to water pistols. It's each man for himself, the largest gun wins and the fate of teh vanquished is ugly. The tears, teh injustice, the rage, the rat-atiled hair and the wringing clothes." I repseat.

How many water fights have you seen where only one or two kids have super soakers and the rest have nothing or small pistols?

I haven't seen one yet where everyone had fun. And lots have gone on around my way.

Blu · 18/07/2008 21:07
Grin
Marina · 18/07/2008 21:05

I'd send dd, who took out two Yr 4 boys from the roof of the TP den earlier this summer Blu

Blu · 18/07/2008 21:04

Ooh, I would happily send / invite DS to a specifically advertised 'water fight' party - the advantage of these things in gardens is that then you have a towel handy, and spare clothes if their enthusiasm outpaces their circulation, and hypothermia threatens.

Of course if my Pimms was contaminated with a slug of water from inside a festering supersoaker, well then I'd be proper peeved

dinny · 18/07/2008 20:53

HM - missed you today

hunkermunker · 18/07/2008 20:51

TM, I think you have possibly missed the point of the thread's responses - I don't think anyone - or many people - actually object to super soakers (except Moo was it who saw a person half-blinded by one), so they wouldn't necessarily object to water bombs - it was the whole issue of "time and place" that was the crux or thrust of the whole shebang.

Glad it was good though and cheers [Pimms]

Marina · 18/07/2008 20:43

Well, I don't know how I missed this but am glad for you that all's well that ends dry tm - it would have been a brave bunch of kids opting in to supersoaking on this rather bracing day! (We did NOT spend the afternoon at Danson Pk water feature as intended, I believe the pipes froze )
Agree with some latter posters that the tone of some of the posts here is incredibly rude
I also know tm in RL and have spent many happy, relaxed and untraumatised hours in her company and that of her two fab dss.
I thought your remark about her ds2 being left out of parties because of her attitude was particularly mean-spirited sophable.

Heifer · 18/07/2008 20:37

Hallelujah. Common sense has prevailed.

As far as I am concerned, Super Soakers belong in your own garden only. Unless of course than an invite makes a particular reference to them..

I like to think of myself as a down with the kidz, happy go lucky kind of girl, but I would not be happy if some horrible snotty nosed child sprayed me with water at an event... I would get really really cross and tut out loud!

meglet · 18/07/2008 20:35

all's well that ends well .

I never want to hear the words super soaker again .

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