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Things that are utterly bloody fascinating

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ElizabethBest · 06/03/2023 14:24

Let's hear it please - I love a good wikipedia rabbit hole. I'll start - The Willard Suitcases. Over 400 suitcases of possessions were found in an attic at the Willard Insane Asylum belong to patients who had died whilst inpatients so never left. The New York State Museum started a project to document the cases and their contents, and you can learn all about it and see the cases on their website.

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WestwardHo1 · 07/03/2023 12:05

Accents and how they developed. And why. And how quickly.

Lillygolightly · 07/03/2023 12:03

The extended mind, it’s and old video but I still find it fascinating. It a nutshell it talks about how you can feel a that you are being watched (so not from your peripheral vision), so how sight is more external than we thing, how dogs know when their owner is returning even from a completely random outing to an unknown destination, how we anticipate the thoughts, movements and actions of others without really knowing why or being able to explain it.

Here is the video

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 12:02

@DumpedinKilburn I went through a phase of being obsessed with Oxford Theory, the incomparable brethren etc - it’s so interesting!! My theory is he’s a bit like James Patterson, or Carolyn M Keene who write the Nancy drew books - it’s a convenient pen name for a collection of writers. (Although I don’t think there ever was a real Carolyn Keene? I think the entire person was made up? It’s been a while!)

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ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:56

@Halsall there goes my next decade!!

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GivememyowlbackSandra · 07/03/2023 11:55

I couldn't believe this was real when I saw it on TV. A pufferfish that makes beautiful sand art to attract a female. The precision is remarkable.

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:53

@TortolaParadise going to spend ages looking for him now!

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ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:50

@awaynboilyurheid It so needs a film! I watched ‘The Lost City of Z’, about Percy Fawcett a few years ago and it was really interesting!

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ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:48

@teawamutu ooh I’ve never heard of Newgrange. Googling now! It’s like how they built the pyramids - I mean, just HOW?! And also, how did the Syrians and the Egyptians and the Maya and the Inca all come up with the same ideas?

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ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:46

@Riverlee Me too. I grew up in an area where a lot of young children went missing in a short space of time, some of whom were found alive, so it was sort of the monster under the bed when I was a child. (don't want to say much more as it's a famous case so v outing!)

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 07/03/2023 11:45

ElizabethBest · 06/03/2023 16:31

@notprincehamlet god, the stupidity actually hurts. "what did the Romans ever do for us?" part 2.

Only got this far in the thread, so I don't know if anyone else has said this, but I remember seeing a beautiful bit of news footage at the time of the referendum. It's somewhere in Wales, where (the voiceover has just said) the EU put in a couple of expensive facilities for the locals costing a million or more each, e.g. community centre & sports facility - something like that, for everyone, for free.

It's a vox pop with two locals who say they're for Brexit because the EU's done nothing for them. The interviewer points out one of the facilities RIGHT BEHIND THEM. Oh, that? That doesn't count.😂

Good luck getting the UK government to fund anything like that.

Weallhaveavoice · 07/03/2023 11:44

I’m fascinated by where we live and how it has evolved over time.
We have for the last few years had archaeologists digging up our garden.
So far they found a turkey, it turned out it was buried quite ceremoniously, so a pet. Aparently that was not unusual..
Plus various coins 13th, 14,15th century coins and a Tudor period spur,
Lots of the unusual flint materials aswell.

They also found what they think may be the original floor or external surface of the house.

It has been amazing and more to come.
We have been researching who lived here, what they were like, etc.
It would be lovely to find some treasure though, might help with the renovations😀

dottiedodah · 07/03/2023 11:43

Dumpedinkilburn I like you ,would prefer to think of him as the sole author of his works .I always find these sort of theories interesting even when I disagree .Ifyswim.There is an interesting article online "Was Shakespeare the real author of his plays" which explores this.Apparently his parents and children were all illiterate .Strange for such a worthy author .Also Francis Bacon was the "real"guy.Being well read and of high office .Fascinating read whatever your thoughts. JKR article I cant seem to find .Her ex though has tried to muscle in on her success.Bloody parasite!

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:42

@PurpleWisteria1 With an identical twin, it can't happen. I mean, the cells can be absorbed, but identical twins share DNA, so you wouldn't get chimerism as it's two copies of the same DNA.

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WigsNGowns · 07/03/2023 11:41

President John Tyler (b. 1790) the tenth president of the United States has a grandson who is alive today - Harrison Tyler aged 94.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler

John Tyler (b. 1790 – d. 1862) - who was president from1841 until 1845 - had a second wife Julia who was a lot younger than him (b 1820 – d 1889).

Their son Lyon Gardiner Tyler Sr. was born in 1853 when his father the former president was 63 years old.

He too (like father like son!) had a second wife who was a lot younger. He married Sue Ruffin in 1921 and she was 35 years younger than him.

The president's grandson was born in 1928 when his own father was 75 years old.

Sadly Harrison Ruffin Tyler is in a nursing home and has dementia so he doesn't remember anything of the past but it is fascinating to me that such a vast span of history can actually be so short - covered by just 3 lives.

More about him here:

www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/

PuddlesPityParty · 07/03/2023 11:39

I love tiktok accounts who film going into an abandoned buildings! I watched one once and they found an elderly woman in one of the beds in the room, I’m pretty sure they were able to contact her family or possibly the council to get her the help she needed.

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:37

@calimali ME TOO!! Also in looking at the incidences of insanity and genetic conditions amongst European royalty and tracing that back.

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Glamourreader · 07/03/2023 11:36

Halsall · 07/03/2023 08:44

Anyone who's interested in British history can happily lose hours on the Old Bailey Online site of actual court cases from 1674 onwards. Utterly engrossing.

I have spent hours reading these. I also love 'voices from the old Bailey ' on BBC sounds. The presenter correctly states that we'd have no record of the existence of many of the accused if it weren't for them appearing in court.

I'm no legal expert but the old Bailey records suggest that if a woman gave birth alone and the baby died then she was presumed to have killed it and sentenced to hang. Is this right, and if so is it the only time the onus is on the accused to prove their innocence rather than the other way around? Does anyone know?

DumpedinKilburn · 07/03/2023 11:36

Halsall · 07/03/2023 11:28

@DumpedinKilburn it really isn’t a mystery re Shakespeare's plays so I think you're OK to feel safe in your belief - but it's perfectly well documented that some of the plays were co-written with others. That still doesn’t take away from his sole authorship of the great works of the canon.

Have you read James Shapiro's excellent book 'Contested Will'? He explains it all, very brilliantly. He also gives a jaw-dropping and often hilarious run-down of the various alternative theories which are, to put it politely, based on some very fundamental misconceptions.

Thanks for this-I've ordered it.
Why do you think there are so few records about him?

I read a book called Silver Street-can't recall the full or exact title- that described his time at this address and how litigious he was. I admit I don't like to think of him as being like that! To me he will always be the Chandos portrait rather the Pork Butcher resemblance in the church at Stratford.

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 11:35

@Trez1510 I LOVE Brad mondo!

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IClaudine · 07/03/2023 11:34

What a brilliant thread. Some great procrastinating opportunities (a change from arguing the toss on MN).

Needmorelego · 07/03/2023 11:34

@notafruit ooh that website looks good.
I actually found myself and my daughter on street view - we are stood at the bus stop !

AmandaJonah · 07/03/2023 11:30

The family that can't sleep - a genetic illness that at some point in a persons life switches off the ability to sleep. People affected die within 6 months.

edition.cnn.com/2017/09/19/health/fatal-insomnia-family-curse-somethings-killing-me/index.html

Emotionalsupportviper · 07/03/2023 11:30

Daftasabroom · 06/03/2023 22:13

Mitochondrial Eve

Blows my mind.

YES!

And Bryan Sykes book "7 Daughters of Eve". Absolutely brilliant!

WedonttalkaboutMaureen · 07/03/2023 11:29

Onemorewaferthinmint · 06/03/2023 17:47

Another thing I love is those videos comparing the size of objects - stars so big that they would make the planet jupiter a) look like a billiard ball and b) raise its temperature by thousands of degrees

Ooh yes. When my son was doing a project in primary school we found fascinating videos on YouTube about the scale and size of planets, stars, galaxies compared to earth etc. it is mind blowing and hard to comprehend some of the distances/sizes. Really interesting.

Halsall · 07/03/2023 11:28

@DumpedinKilburn it really isn’t a mystery re Shakespeare's plays so I think you're OK to feel safe in your belief - but it's perfectly well documented that some of the plays were co-written with others. That still doesn’t take away from his sole authorship of the great works of the canon.

Have you read James Shapiro's excellent book 'Contested Will'? He explains it all, very brilliantly. He also gives a jaw-dropping and often hilarious run-down of the various alternative theories which are, to put it politely, based on some very fundamental misconceptions.

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