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Things that are utterly bloody fascinating

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ElizabethBest · 06/03/2023 14:24

Let's hear it please - I love a good wikipedia rabbit hole. I'll start - The Willard Suitcases. Over 400 suitcases of possessions were found in an attic at the Willard Insane Asylum belong to patients who had died whilst inpatients so never left. The New York State Museum started a project to document the cases and their contents, and you can learn all about it and see the cases on their website.

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Jaxhog · 07/03/2023 14:48

Penguins. I just can't get enough of them.

ivykaty44 · 07/03/2023 14:40

That's a good point about regularity. Most women would have spent most of their married lives pregnant or nursing so actually the likelihood of having to deal with monthly periods probably wasn't that high. If you look back at family trees, especially for the poorer in society,many women had a baby once every 2 years.

When I looked at my own great grandmother on the 1911 census, she married in 1890 and by 1911 had 15 children (7 died had died according to the census question) and was pregnant with her 16th and went on to have her 17th in 1914,. So within 21 years she had 16 pregnancies. Two the daughters were called Elizabeth and Eliza, so she either liked the name or was running out of ideas

NooNooHead1981 · 07/03/2023 14:29

*noughties 😳🙄

NooNooHead1981 · 07/03/2023 14:29

JimmyHalpert · 07/03/2023 03:33

They have, or at least had, one of these at Essex uni. One of only 3 in the country I think!

That is true. They had one in the library when I was at the University of Essex in the early naughties. I went on it on the top floor and I didn't realise that it went up and over until I saw a horrible light appear and it came back down over to the top floor to go down again.

I was in a huge panic and the person waiting to get on and go down looked at me very oddly as I got off, wondering why on earth I had just appeared from the above them! 😳🤣🙄

GenderCriticalTrumpets · 07/03/2023 14:20

I just really love this thread! So many interesting worm holes to go down when I should be working.

The people who do QI have a podcast called No Such Thing As A Fish which has so many fascinating episodes.

ElizabethBest · 07/03/2023 14:18

Oooh here's one for @MNHQ - The original babies and toddlers that were being moaned about on MN at the start are now old enough that some will be on here moaning about their own DC.

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JudgeJ · 07/03/2023 14:17

notprincehamlet · 06/03/2023 15:41

The EU's effect on Blackpool's beaches – before and after pictures
www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/13/the-eus-effect-on-blackpools-beaches-before-and-after-pictures

I always remember when as a child we saw the 'foam' on the sea and the sands at Backpool, we weren't allowed to even paddle. It was the same on the No8 bus into Manchester, as we past what is now Salford Uni we saw the foam on the oxbow of the River Irwell and thought it was lovely when in reality it was the crap from the mills etc further up the river!

Verbena17 · 07/03/2023 14:16

ArseMenagerie · 06/03/2023 18:39

There’s a fantastic geography game that I love where you get dropped on the earth in google earth and have to guess where you are from the landscape/ buildings.
its called Geoguessr

My DS is autistic and played geoguesser for months - learning which road signs and road markings, soil colours, rocks, rooftops, lampposts etc belong to which country.
He can pretty much guess within a few 10’s of miles where he’s been placed!

hamstersarse · 07/03/2023 14:00

I am so fascinated by the 'Wood Wide Web' - the symbiotic relationship between trees and funghi

Some even think they can communicate!

www.sciencefocus.com/nature/mycorrhizal-networks-wood-wide-web/

I think there is a lot to be discovered there!

steppemum · 07/03/2023 13:59

Paternoster lifts - my brother's close friend was livign in New York and there was a paternoster lift in the nightclub where he worked.
One day he tripped going in it and was dragged and jammed against the floor above.
He was nearly severed in two. Lost his spleen, part of his liver and had vast tissue damage. He won thousands in damages from the club.
he was extremely lucky that his spine wasn't damaged and he didn't bleed to death.

LemonSwan · 07/03/2023 13:58

Flowering intervals of bamboo. The longest flowering period is of P. Bambusoides of 120-130 years. All plants of the same stock (taken from cuttings as you can only get a new plant from seed) will flower at exactly the same time, regardless of location, climate, time zones and then die.

I don’t know why this fascinates me so much but it does. The fact it has an interval death clock, for every plant even if treated badly or well. It’s a bit like final destination of the plant world.

Then there’s discussions on why this mechanism occurred and how it works. No one can agree.

And then The fact that it has such a long flowering period. Why! If you know about plant cycles there’s various strategies as to why they have longer intervals, and usually a prime number as laps less with other species. But why so long! How many Darwinian ‘generations’ has it even had. Considering it has the most sophisticated systems for survival but less generations time to work it out.

Its just odd.

Britinme · 07/03/2023 13:57

When I were a lass, long ago, being "on the rag" was a euphemism for periods, which I'm guessing was a hanger-on of the period when women did use and wash rags held by a belt to catch menstrual flow.

NeedWineNow · 07/03/2023 13:56

What an absolutely fascinating thread this is! Thank you for starting it OP. Bookmarking for future reference.

I love anything historical, particularly social history and also little known facts, museums etc. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it on the thread but me and DH are loving Greg Jenner's podcast You're Dead To Me where he and two guests (an academic and also a comedian) discuss an historical figure, event, era of time etc. We recently listened to the episode called the History of Football which revealed some really interesting info on the history of the women's game. We've listened to several episodes which have made both of us go further down a Wiki rabbit hole to find further information.

ComeTheFckOnBridget · 07/03/2023 13:43

Itdjgsurchg · 07/03/2023 09:57

Yes I listened to this the other day. It sounds like some women did just have to let it flow. Apparently in the factories there used to be hay on the floor so at the end of the working day any blood and mess was just swept up.
I’m sure those with more money or time did have rags etc to use though.

I also don’t think women were as regular, especially if they were malnourished etc but I can’t remember where I read that or heard it.

That's a good point about regularity. Most women would have spent most of their married lives pregnant or nursing so actually the likelihood of having to deal with monthly periods probably wasn't that high. If you look back at family trees, especially for the poorer in society,many women had a baby once every 2 years.

@Halsall thanks for enlightening me!

Verv · 07/03/2023 13:39

Here's the ward 81 link - www.maryellenmark.com/books/ward-81

Verv · 07/03/2023 13:38

I am an Urbexer, or at least was for a long time before work/life took over and I don't get time anymore.
Here's some of my shots - www.flickr.com/photos/120082695@N07/

The Willard suitcases are fascinating, you see a lot of discarded belongings in asylums.
OP (and others) might enjoy Ward 81 by Mary Ellen Mark who documented some female psych inmates. Her photos are wonderful.

Some of my favoured wormholes -

Kensington Avenue, Philadelphia - Its regularly documented by this guy and I find it horrific and fascinating in equal measure -

kensingtonblues.com

Chernobyl and Pripyat

Pennhurst Asylum (as was not as its current "haunted attraction" bollocks which I find disrespectful in the extreme)

Anything paranormal (love the mumsnet threads on the topic) and Im from Enfield so the poltergeist was always of interest.

Resembleflower · 07/03/2023 13:35

Resembleflower · 07/03/2023 12:43

Northwick park hospital london has one!

Quote fail, Northwick Park has a Paternoster lifts

Glamourreader · 07/03/2023 13:25

Thanks BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn i will have a look into that, it's fascinating

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 07/03/2023 13:23

The reversal of proof in infanticide cases was one of the things covered by the TV series Garrow's Law a few years ago (fiction based on William Garrow en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Garrow).

Although the presumption of innocence is an ancient concept - found in both Roman and Talmudic law - in more recent European history it wasn't really observed in practice. It was only in the 18th century that defence barristers became common in UK courts. Before that it was usual for a lawyer to present the prosecution case but defendants mostly represented themselves, and 'evidence' was often simply assertion and not put to much of a test.

8stone13 · 07/03/2023 13:21

I’ve just spent time looking up everything from people who believe they have lived previous lives to random air raid shelters due to this fantastic thread! Thank you @ElizabethBest

The infamous Leicester University paternoster was in the Attenborough Tower, I spent much of the early-mid nineties hopping on & off it as an undergraduate & postgraduate. As @Kucinghitam says, it was decommissioned 6 years ago. My old uni friends & I wondered about heading back there just to go over the top & under the bottom again before it closed 😀

@HarrietSchulenberg the Bold Street time slip fascinates me. I’m not generally woo but am beguiled by the idea that we may be experiencing brief time slips regularly that we don’t know about because there would be nothing visually obvious if time only shifted by a day or an hour or so. Those who believe they have time travelled often report seeing fashions from another era - the most obvious visual point of difference to indicate this isn’t the present day. If the shift was small this wouldn’t be a give-away.

Two lovely & very sane members of my family were driving down a deserted country road in rural Hampshire in the early 1960s & an ethereal figure of a Roman man walked across the road in front of them & went straight through a low wall at the other side. To the end of their lives (they both died around a decade ago in their nineties) they maintained the same story & said neither of them could explain it.

I might have to look in The Unexplained & see if there is a dedicated time travel thread there 🤔

@Trixiefirecracker I’m obsessed with Hidden London Underground & spent time last week on Clapham Common to see the WWII air raid shelter there.

WedonttalkaboutMaureen · 07/03/2023 13:13

Ujustcan031289 · 07/03/2023 10:50

A bit morbid but I can go into a rabbit hole with this. So many fluke things, some are stupidity or human error. Just all the weird ways we can shuffle off our mortal coil!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths

Bizarrely fascinating but I did feel a bit sick by the end of it.

Weallhaveavoice · 07/03/2023 13:12

Halsall · 07/03/2023 12:57

All the people who love the history of London and particularly its buildings - do you know about the UCL Survey of London at the Bartlett School of Architecture? The volumes are available to read online (which is lucky, as they cost ££££ to buy). The ones called British History Online are older, though still fascinating - the more recent ones are Vols 48 onwards and are just riveting.

Once you start on those, a) your head will explode
and
b) you'll never do anything else again
😊

Thanks for that.
What a wonderful thread this is, I’m taking notes. I can’t wait to check that out at the Bartlett.

Glamourreader · 07/03/2023 13:01

www.oldbaileyonline.org/static/Crimes.jsp#killing

This link spells it out, I didn't remember that it was so clearly written. Under infanticide, so many poor women assumed to have murdered their own babies when they were already traumatised from having to give birth in secret. The only crime when the burden of proof was reversed.

This is horrific but I've never heard it discussed at all.

Halsall · 07/03/2023 12:57

All the people who love the history of London and particularly its buildings - do you know about the UCL Survey of London at the Bartlett School of Architecture? The volumes are available to read online (which is lucky, as they cost ££££ to buy). The ones called British History Online are older, though still fascinating - the more recent ones are Vols 48 onwards and are just riveting.

Once you start on those, a) your head will explode
and
b) you'll never do anything else again
😊

Tricyrtis2022 · 07/03/2023 12:53

Drying laundry in winter is a pain and got me wondering just how long humans have been fretting over getting their clothes dry. Looked it up and it could be as long as 34,000 years! And that's not taking into account the drying of skin clothes in earlier times. Makes me want to weep and also helps explain why I feel like I rule the Universe when I've made use of good drying days.

news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/oldest-known-fibers-discovered/

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