To say no to visiting pigs for Christmas??

I really hope this is a wind up

No responsible breeder would sell two pigs to her, but this is obviously someone completely unscrupulous:

1. They are marketing pigs as 'micropigs'
2. They've lied to her about the likely size of the pigs
3. They've clearly done no checks on your sister's suitability or that of her home
4. They're doing something very wrong with their breeding if an unexpected litter of TWO has been produced

I would name and shame the breeder - what they're doing is disgusting

The breeder should be reported. They might have lots of conditions on their website, but they obviously don't follow them, because a responsible breeder wouldn't be selling pigs as "micro pigs", and they wouldn't sell to your sister.

I'm actually worried about those pigs, poor things.

We were thinking of getting pigs, but illness stopped our plans. We have the land, and would have done a pig keeping course. We already had a large flock of chickens and ducks, so had experience of keeping livestock, and had friends who kept pigs for breeding and meat, so were aware of all the regulations.

It makes me angry when people get animals without doing any research.

It’s OP’s sister not SIL

Ffs. My parents have a dog and two cats. Even then I made sure they were 100% happy with me bringing my dog over for Christmas. You do not impose pets on anyone, let alone animals that are not meant to be pets.

Looking at the pictures of the pigs at 10:38 I think last night - does your SIL realise that just because the father isn't a fully grown pig now, he will be ... and so will all the babies, you don't get micro pet sizes be breeding with a not fully grown adolescent animal .... it's about genetics, not the size of the animal at conception
Your SIL is Dick I'm afraid

“Pigs in blankets you say? Well yeah that’s very generous, only thing is, I’m not sure you should be giving them as Christmas presents as everyone will want to enjoy them and they’ll likely be gone by Boxing Day.”

Your sister is nuts. Send her video links to the actual size that micro pigs grow to. What is she thinking! Her neighbours are going to be pissed off with the sound of squealing pigs!! Maybe tell her neighbours!

They'll be in a shelter by Easter and will have to be fed and looked after by volunteers for the rest of their lives. We had a neighbour who bought large pigs and decided they would rear them at a rented house with no outbuildings.They lived on the side of a hilly mountainous area which experiences quite low temperatures.aWhen we queried why the pigs were outside in freezing conditions I was told by this very posh lady that they were a hardy breed who could find their own shelter.She'd read this in a book.A hardened farmer in the area took pity on them and provided housing and bedding.

That pig's "father" is a slightly older piglet

That's what I thought.

@ CactusAndCacti @ coldwarenigma

do people not realise they eat loads, shit loads and stink

Well to be fair teenagers are the same.

Brilliant!

do people not realise they eat loads, shit loads and stink

Well to be fair teenagers are the same.

I am sure the deeds of my last house included not keeping a pig. Crazy.

Your DSis is mad. Hopefully the landlord will say no and that will be the end of that.

I am loving everyone's pig stories.... Pig tails one might say 🐖🤣

Many houses come with a covenant which states NO PIGS!

YANBU. Just say no if she is stupid enough to buy them.

Also a litter of 2 is very unusual

That pig's "father" is a slightly older piglet....

Not read the whole thread OP so sorry if this has already been mentioned but I assume she has the relevant licences, holding numbers etc... for keeping these
https://www.manchester.gov.uk/download/downloads/id/16579/advicetooownersoffpet_pigs.pdf

This is info from Manchester but is much the same wherever you are- may be a way to put her off!

When I was a child we had a gardener who had a pet pig. Used to take it shopping with him on a lead, leave it tied up outside shops.
This was the 1970s - you couldn't do that now without breaking the law.
I strongly suspect he had grown up with pigs and knew what he was doing, also it probably came down to the size/personality of his particular pig. He lived on his own so would have been able to give it the training and attention it needed, this was rural so he probably had more space than your sil. And he only had the one!

I’m absolutely astounded & entertained by your sisters madness all at the same time.

The sane landlord will say no anyway.

What I don’t get about this abhorrent micro pig trend is that even if the breeder has done something to keep them small - do people not realise they eat loads, shit loads and stink?

My son did a week work experience at a pig farm when he wanted to be a vet. We are used to country aromas and smelling of horse wee after mucking out but we made him get out of his work clothes in the shed and then get straight in the shower.

That’s not an adult male pig - it’s probably not even a year old yet. They teach sexual maturity around 7-8 months but they grow for around 2-3 years.

A couple of my friends have pet kunekune pigs. They are adorable, they love coming for walks and having their neck scratched. They are also bloody huge. One friend has a farm and the other has enough land that she might as well have one - I would not keep a pig in the conditions she’s describing or that tiny cage. If they don’t outgrow it rapidly then she’s been told to underfed them to keep them small 😢

I’d be very surprised if a landlord said yes to 2 pigs! If I asked my sister this she’d reply “no fucking way”. I’d go with “no, I’m not having them here and it’s a stupid idea getting pigs when you have a small house and garden”.

An abusive father got fed to the pigs in the recent TV drama 'Gentleman Jack'
Maybe mumsnet HQ could consider getting some pigs that they could loan out when required....