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To wonder how my dd got to 14 thinking this was the real phrase?

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WellVersedInEtiquette · 03/10/2019 16:23

We've all be ill on and off since they went back to school.
One morning Dd was telling me that she had a 'bummed up nose' I asked her to repeat it and she said the same.
I tried to clarify what she was saying and told her it was actually 'bunged up nose'. She laughed and thought I was joking!
She's decided she's going to carry on saying it the way she does Grin
Please tell me it's not just us. Confused

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lazylinguist · 03/10/2019 21:17

but it is technically meant to rhyme with Stork, and fork.

Not quite sure what you mean by this. Do you mean they are meant to sound the same because they are spelled the same, with an 'or'? Because that really doesn't work with English. Otherwise bought, cough, through, though, rough and thorough would all have the same sound in them. Not to mention book and pool, pour and sour etc.

hsegfiugseskufh · 03/10/2019 21:16

Pork and stork rhyme in my accent (yorkshire)

But im saying them to myself in a (terrible attempt) irish accent.

To me pork is said with an or in it

And stork a bit like walk?

Which all rhyme in my accent but wouldn't in certain irish accents i think? Grin

lazylinguist · 03/10/2019 21:13

I wonder if we were at the same place, Jaichange... My course was mostly literature, but I liked translation best tbh. I enjoyed the linguistics bit, but it felt like I would have needed to learn the whole 'language of linguistics' in order to do it properly. Which I didn't!

LittleDancers · 03/10/2019 21:12

Pork, fork and stork all rhyme where I'm from Confused

I can imagine some other accents/dialects might pronounce it Pew-ork or similar, but it is technically meant to rhyme with Stork, and fork. I don't think not rhyming Pork and Fork is "wrong" at all (pronunciations vary from region to region for many words) but to say someone else is wrong for rhyming them is wrong. IYSWIM.

LorelaiRoryEmily · 03/10/2019 21:11

@SpirallingThroughAnotherDay my mil pronounces donkey to rhyme with monkey. Cracks me up every time🤣

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 03/10/2019 21:09

lazylinguist - I had to do linguistics of the same kind as you, as part of my degree, in French. I remember the Prof well, lovely man, dead now. I think he must have cheated somehow to make me pass the year, as I was hopeless. (Give me literature any day. Well, not today, I've atrophied.)

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/10/2019 21:09

I remember seeing the word taicoon in one of the Arthur Ransome books, when I was a child (Missee Lee), and for some reason I didn’t read it correctly - my brain saw the word as toonican. I’m just glad I never actually said the word out loud. I didn’t realise I was wrong for years.

LorelaiRoryEmily · 03/10/2019 21:06

I'm Irish and Pork and stork rhyme for me. I'm sitting here saying them over and overGrin

My mother says Veshtables for vegetables. Drives me crazy.

sometimeorother · 03/10/2019 21:05

Somebody mentioned 'chimley' being dialect. It is, as is the London "chimbley" that my father occasionally used (born 1918, I guess his parents used this). I like it, it should be used more often :)

ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 03/10/2019 21:04

Surely the issue isn't that we pronounce things differently, most people accept that. It was that @Bluntness stated that her husband was wrong because he thought they rhyme, whereas most of us also say they rhyme in our accents.

Igotthemheavyboobs · 03/10/2019 21:00

lazylinguist

Thank you! I was suddenly really embarrassed I had been saying it wrong this whole time!! Hehe

PerkyPomPoms · 03/10/2019 20:59

I am sitting here muttering for four then pork stork I can’t find a difference between pork and stork and fork but maybe it’s my kiwi accent (world’s sexiest accent Grin) - I am ignoring work obviously.

lazylinguist · 03/10/2019 20:58

I did a linguistics unit as part of my MFL degree. Not highly relevant to this thread as it was historical linguistics on the transition from Late Latin to Old Early French Grin, but it was very interesting. I'd frequent a linguistics board, but would probably be a bit out of my depth!

happygoluckyhippo · 03/10/2019 20:58

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom there's always the option to come back and retrain as a Scottish as a Language Teacher though!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 03/10/2019 20:56

Sorry, SALTs, am v old and I've not lived in the UK for 30 years, bit rusty on the current acronyms Grin TEFL and CELTA are the most recent things I understand!

Luullz · 03/10/2019 20:55

My DP says "it's a doggy dog world"...

Pinacola · 03/10/2019 20:55

I didn't discover that misled wasn't pronounced as MYZELD until I was about 18. I kept seeing it in my mum's Catherine Cooksons and had no idea what it meant!

sometimeorother · 03/10/2019 20:54

My only excuse is that the radio sound was quite distorted back in the day. I used to sing "The Reverend Blue Jeans" for Forever in Blue Jeans.

Another time my DD was astonished when she saw the word children printed in a book, when she was about three. She thought all this time we'd been saying trilldren. It took me ages to convince her the book was correct and the word began with chil not trill. :)

angeltattoo · 03/10/2019 20:54

And it was literally only last year that I learned "segue" was actually the word I thought must be spelled "segway"

@OnlyTheTitOfTheIceberg for me it was 30 seconds ago! I can't believe I had that one so wrong...

cacklingmags · 03/10/2019 20:52

A couple of faves are:
Its a doggy dog world.
A bowl in a china shop.
These are sometimes known as mondegreens after a folk song with the misheard phrase - Lady Mondegreen, actually - Laid him on the green.
Also known as eggcorns - acorns, silly.

happygoluckyhippo · 03/10/2019 20:51

@ShowOfHands (sorry don't know how to quote properly!)
know hippo but I didn't want to complicate things! Lots of people can't fathom how the sounds can rhyme when a word contains a vocalised r. Take away rhoticity and it's a step in the right direction to understanding the possible differences and how rhoticity shapes a sound in the first place.

Yes, agreed but unfortunately before -r is the only environment in which the vowel contrast occurs in that way! Just a shame the original words had a postvocalic /r/...

In other news, there should totally be a linguistics board. I'd frequent the crap out of that!

derxa · 03/10/2019 20:51

Scottish As a Language Teacher? Are you funning me? Grin
Speech and Language Therapist

scaryclare666 · 03/10/2019 20:50

My wee boy wanted crisps so I asked him what flavour he wanted, Smokey boakin 😂😂 they will always be smokey boakin now.

sailorcherries · 03/10/2019 20:50

Speech and language therapist, I assume.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 03/10/2019 20:47

Yes, derxa, you should have mentioned "in Scottish English" Grin What is a SALT in this context, please? Scottish As a Language Teacher?