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As promised Funeral Director here (waves)

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 20:08

I am ready for your questions!

I will do my best to answer, I have a few bits I am doing at home but will answer regularly throughout the evening as much as I can.

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:27

Years not months

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:26

How long - that makes sense then. We don't charge for 17 and under x

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:23

How long ago was this? Legally now with cremation there are lots of checks.

I had a client once who answered the question 'do you believe the dealt was unnatural or suspicious' as yes - but then changed her mind.

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Howlongtillbedtime · 01/06/2018 23:23

Oohnarna It was for the car we were in not the coffin and we were happy to pay. They had brought him most days to a local premises and taken him back every day just so we could visit. He was 14 mths old and I always remember wondering how old a son would need to be before they would charge .

No judgement I just always wondered.

MarSeeAh · 01/06/2018 23:22

@OurMiracle1106

I'm a minister, and I once had a funeral where the deceased had left very clear instructions with her solicitor that her family were to have no involvement in the funeral preparations. Some of them did find out about the funeral - from a neighbour, I believe - and were present. The staff at the crematorium were made aware of this, and were prepared to remove family members if they caused any trouble. They asked to speak at the funeral, and were advised that that would not be permitted. One of them did come up to me during the funeral itself, asking to speak, and I refused. They then passed me a piece of paper, asking that I read it out, and I simply put the paper in my pocket and carried on with the funeral in accordance with the wishes of the deceased.

This thread and the other one about cremations have been really helpful, I feel.

I have a few comments to make as someone who conducts funeral services, and meets with families to make the arrangements.

My first comment is that if you wish particular arrangements to be made for your funeral then it would be wise to have that made official, in writing - either with a solicitor or in a funeral plan. Unfortunately, family members sometimes, not often, make funeral arrangements to suit them which are not in accordance with what the deceased would have wanted.

My second comment is prompted by posts on this and the other thread about the timing of funeral services in crematoria and the need to have someone to "MC" a funeral. I am always very conscious of the need to keep within the time allowed by the crematorium, and I am able to do that. If you don't have a celebrant or minister with experience in keeping to the time allowed, then it can be very easy to run over. This is really disrespectful not only to other families whose funeral services will then be delayed and may have to be shortened, and also the crematorium staff who work very hard to ensure that the chapel or sanctuary is tidied and ready for each funeral. In extreme cases funeral directors or crematorium staff have to intervene and insist that a service is concluded. No one wants to have to do that.

And in relation to fees. I'm a Church of Scotland minister, and we don't charge any fees for conducting funeral services. I'm aware that some funeral directors try to charge families for my services. They should not do that for Church of Scotland ministers, and if anyone here experiences that, then please let the minister know. We conduct funeral services for anyone who lives within our parish, regardless of whether they were a church member or not. It will be a religious service, but needn't be overly, and can include poems or other readings that the family choose.

I consider it a real privilege of ministry to be able to conduct funeral services and to be with families at that time.

karyatide · 01/06/2018 23:20

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:17

Our miracle - it would become a legal issue - yes.

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:17

How long - sorry for your loss.

It will just be the basics covered. I am surprised they charged for the car, but there is no set rule.

We love getting cards !!! It means so so much. My guys keep them all.

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:15

Weight of coffin can be down to the type of coffin (a solid wood or American style casket for example will be heavier) also a bigger person will ultimately weigh more.

Sometimes we need to have more bearers, so 6 not 4.

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Howlongtillbedtime · 01/06/2018 23:15

When my son died the funeral home were amazing. Even though the only thing they charged for was the car (I think) They made it possible for us to visit most days over a two and half week period and were so compassionate.

We sent them a thank you card which at the time seemed natural but others thought we were weird for doing.

My two questions are

What is the cut off point for charging?
And is it weird to get a thank you card ?

oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:14

We have some female pall bearers!

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:13

The splash, I can only imagine the deceased was resting at home and was being taken out for his/her funeral. For a person who has just died it is usually a private ambulance or a specially modified estate car.

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therockinggazelle · 01/06/2018 23:12

I never knew childrens funerals were free, that's quite lovely. On that note how on earth do you deal with those ? I mean emotionally etc

oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:12

The racking is only for those not dressed and ready. Once they are washed and dressed they will not rest on the rack but will be in their coffin. The coffin rests on a set of wheels (biers) until they are placed in the hearse for the funeral.

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TheSplash · 01/06/2018 23:11

When a funeral director is asked to remove a deceased person from their own home what sort of vehicle is used to collect the body? I was a bit shocked recently when a deceased neighbour was removed from his home and carried out in a coffin and put into a hearse. I always thought it would be like, a black van or black ambulance-type vehicle.

Tiggles · 01/06/2018 23:11

@needle the church do not charge a fee for there part of funerals for children but there are many other associated costs.

oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:10

All funeral homes will be different. Common place is one room with racking.

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:09

Bodies do have fluid that can leak yes.

I don't want to be too graphic but 'wadding' is used to compact orifices to ensure fluids do not leak - however when deterioration starts leakage can happen.

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oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:07

You can't recycle coffins. One coffin per person! They are made to measure to.

Children's funerals as a rule are free, however some celebrants and ministers still charge and the free funeral would be a standard funeral so horse drawn, dove release, upper range caskets would be payable.

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FoxtrotSkarloey · 01/06/2018 23:06

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OurMiracle1106 · 01/06/2018 23:04

What would happen if a relative hasn’t been informed of the cremation? Is it fraud to knowingly not disclose information on those forms?

oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:04

Oh my god - yes always still get them washed and dressed unless the family specifically said they didn't want us to.

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Dinosaursdontgrowontrees · 01/06/2018 23:03

Sorry if this is insensitive or too much.
I heard that dead bodies 'leak' is this true? Where do they leak from and what do they leak? Sorry again if this question is too much.

oohnarna · 01/06/2018 23:03

Hi coffee - sorry for your loss. We use stretchers (a bit like an paramedic would use) the person it wrapped in a dignified manner and taken back to our premises where they are transferred to a clinical rack, where they remain covered and secure. Upon clearance we then get them washed and dressed and placed in their coffin. All is done with dignity and respect.

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neddle · 01/06/2018 23:02

I thought I’d read once that children’s funerals were done for free, yet I see lots of crowd funding requests for help with costs.
Do you tend to get people shopping around for a fd?
Can you ‘hire a coffin as I don’t see the point of buying one for it then to get burnt. Surely it makes more sense for them to be reused.