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Expats, tell me what aspect or social norm of your new country was strange to you?

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AjasLipstick · 18/03/2018 06:53

I am a Brit in Oz and for me, the hardest thing to get used to was Sunday trading hours being like the UK in the 70s.

The weirdest thing was how much less formal people are...kids are dressed very informally and parties for children never have kids dressed up in party dresses but in shorts and t shirts. I like it now I'm used to it though.

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boxthefox · 20/03/2018 20:00

@Gennz18

That is very interesting about your Protestant in laws and funerals. Well we are after all talking about cultural differences in one way or another!

Do you have any idea why there is a difference religion wise? I am so curious. Thank you.

Maybe it is a bit of Puritanism or something I don't know.

YoloSwaggins · 20/03/2018 19:51

OMG the cards.

Birthdays I can understand but Thank You cards are fucking bizarre! Why not just call them?? In Russia, for birthdays you just get an onslaught of phonecalls all day. Also, everyone tries to be the first one of the day, so you'll get them from like 8am.

I remember going to a girl's birthday party in Year 4 or so. Some of her parent's friends gave her a present, and she took it and ran away upstairs without saying anything. I asked her "why didn't you say thank you?" and she said "oh I'll write them a card later". Just SO BIZARRE.

Same for wedding present thank-you cards - why not call or text?

Gennz18 · 20/03/2018 19:49

boxthefox and conferencepear I think it is a Catholic thing. My mum would have no issues with going to a stranger's funeral and Catholics tend to be more the merrier (something to do with taking communion for the dead person I think?). My Protestant in-laws would never dream of it in a million years!

boxthefox · 20/03/2018 19:48

I think it is a bit wrong to say that British people do not offer refreshments to their visitors.

It may not be a four course meal or mezze but it will ALWAYS involve tea and a chat and at the very least a few bikkies and/or sandwiches. Shakes head......

Well that is my experience anyway.

adorkableme · 20/03/2018 19:43

Omg, yes on the taps. What do Brits have against warm water?

Also agree about the British perception of them being polite, found them on par with Americans and just as bad when traveling overseas.

StickStickStickStick · 20/03/2018 19:40

Wobble - I'm south england and don't think I've ever been in a house and not offered tea/coffee/something when I've walked in. It's just Not Done not to offer a drink!!

boxthefox · 20/03/2018 19:38

@ConferencePear

I don't think that applies only to rural France.

In Ireland for example everyone goes to a local funeral, no matter what. It is a community thing. Doesn't matter if you knew the deceased or not, you meet up with others you know, and go to the highly catered funeral reception after if you wish.

No invitation required. Priest/minister/celebrant will announce that refreshments will be served in X hotel afterwards, and all are welcome. All perfectly normal.

Well the Normans invaded Ireland so it must come from them!

Wobbleslikeaweeble · 20/03/2018 19:37

Agree a bit with Toomany

On moving to South of England i ve been to houses where your lucky to get offered a cup of tea never mind anything extra. Visitors at home would be pressed straight away non stop with drinks, biscuits, cakes and my mum always had a spare tin of salmon to make sandwiches.

The English are also huge on net curtains.

SayNoToCarrots · 20/03/2018 19:28

panpan I read your response, but I don't agree. Standing on the right allows movement on the left.

mathanxiety · 20/03/2018 19:26

Boxthefox, of course the contents of the 'doggy bag' are for the people.

'Doggy bag' is a charming term used to disguise that fact.

Sausagesandroses · 20/03/2018 19:06

Moving to the UK 20 years ago - the separate hot and cold taps!! Still gets me. And being made to feel guilty for wasting hot water on rinsing soapy dishes. On numerous occasions...
To a PP, ditto to writing a whole book about Japan. Where does one start...possibly best to watch or read Fear and Trembling.

Mrsfloss · 20/03/2018 18:50

A Scot living in oz. the casual racism. The unfriendliness of Aussies and the expectation that I know everything about the UK!

ConferencePear · 20/03/2018 18:47

An Englishwoman living in small French village. It is expected that you go to the funeral if someone dies even if you've never met them.

PanPanPanPing · 20/03/2018 18:42

"Oh my goodness yes! The British way (or maybe just English?) way of selling houses?!"

England and Wales (and possibly Northern Ireland, although I'm not sure about NI) are stuck with our bizarre way of house sales/purchases. Scotland, fortunately, has a different way. I'm sure that Eire has its own system too.

Graphista · 20/03/2018 18:41

Yea no gazumping in Scotland not sure about NI and Wales

Toomanynamestoremember · 20/03/2018 18:40

Finally, surprisingly I found the Irish psyche very similar to the Russian psyche. The love of drink alone and its central place in the culture. Also closely knit families, constant talk about politics. Bizarrely, there were places in Dublin (modern built up areas) which could have been in a city in Russia, the layout, architecture, use of space etc. I was very surprised at that.

tabulahrasa · 20/03/2018 18:39

“The British way (or maybe just English?) way of selling houses?! “

It’s different in Scotland, I don’t really understand how it works in England because I’ve never bought a house there and reading about it makes no sense.

In Scotland if you accept an offer, it’s sold... pretty much, you could technically back out at that point, but not easily and it rarely happens. It’s not totally sold until completion - but as far as most things go, it’s sold when you’ve agreed the offer.

Toomanynamestoremember · 20/03/2018 18:35

Shifty, your description made me laugh 😃 Spot on!

TheDowagerCuntess · 20/03/2018 18:29

Oh my goodness yes! The British way (or maybe just English?) way of selling houses?!

Here, once an offer is made, it's made. Kind of like signing a contract. Wink

habibihabibi · 20/03/2018 18:27

Once I was in the bassinet aisle with 2 under 2 ( going from one gulf state to another) when mich to the toddlers delight we were joined by a man and a falcon.
Not a flight I'll forget in a hurry.

AhhhhThatsBass · 20/03/2018 18:21

Irish in UK.
-The obsession with social class and the lack of both integration and movement between classes. I blame the school system, you’re categorized and compartmentalized from the age of 3 (private nursery at £6k a year minimum will do that).
-The politeness of the Brits vs the friendliness of my country folk.
-The relative “formalness” of English people (the thank you cards for everything. MIL, I’m looking at you).
-Sunday Roasts. Have embraced these!
-pub lunches. What’s wrong with a few packets of crisps.
-pubs owned/run by breweries. No atmosphere.
-language differences. Subtle but still there. Bold/naughty. Sick/poorly, runners/trainers.
-the pronunciation of the letter R. We say “or”, British say “are”. I have lots of r’s in my name. Have had to adapt on this point!

Had no idea on the washing up thing.

Moanranger · 20/03/2018 18:04

N American long time resident in UK here:
Negs-
Brits thinking they are politer than everyone else. That would be no. They are about as polite as Americans (taking into account that New York and London are about the same.) Brits can be extraordinarily impolite, and if you (as I sometimes do) get fed up & point it out to them, you get accused of being rude!
Class obsessed. This is not the same as “status” obsessed, which some Americans, as well as other cultures, can be.
Introversion. - I remember going to business meetings & endlessly meeting the same type: limp, damp handshake, mumbled name, no eye contact. He would not be allowed out of the office to represent a company in the US! This has somewhat improved.
School obsession -so boring. Brits do not seem to understand that achievement is largely driven by family values - too much responsibility placed on schools-teachers for children’s outcomes- manners, fitness, learning.
Queues - the U S convention, imperfect, but usually works, is to form a mass in front of, say, ice cream counter. Queue people Note who is in front of them, then step forward when server says, who’s next. If someone else steps in front, you say, excuse me, but I believe I was next, & other person will usually retreat. If he does not, the whole crowd will give him the evil eye. This system requires interaction with other humans, hence the likely reason Brits prefer their long, snakey, inefficient queues.
Buying & selling houses - don’t get me started! Must be the worst system on the planet.
Never had the dishwashing issue myself.
Hatred of bartering - I had a bizarre experience where I was in Morocco on a spa holiday & went with a group of MC women to the souk in Marrakesh. We all wanted scarves, & relishing bartering (I used to live in Mexico, so rather good at it) began to do so, when stopped by horrified Englishwomen, who wanted absolutely nothing to do with such an awful practice & would rather pay full price, thank you very much - just bizarre!
Pluses - English summers, the best; Brits party way better than Yanks. Great cheese, bread, meats ( tho fruit & veg in France is tops). Great fine art, rock and roll, music generally, stately homes, architecture, town planning, countryside. Eloquence & humour. System of justice, animal welfare, tolerance (mostly).
My favourite Brit community is equestrians , incredibly helpful, supportive ( high degree of sportsmanship even if you are competing with one another, not like that in US)
Not going anywhere, me, just learned to dive & dodge around bits I don’t like.

PanPanPanPing · 20/03/2018 17:24

"This is millions of years too late but we stand on the right on escalators to allow people to pass on the left. So it is the same as the roads."

We dealt with this one upthread at around 6 am yesterday, SayNoToCarrots. To save you trying to find it, this was my post about UK driving and escalator usage :

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"Also, I don't understand standing to the right on escalators etc. when you drive on the left. Seems backwards to me."

I think I know the answer to this, SuperBeagle.

Re driving on the left, "in the past, almost everybody travelled on the left side of the road because that was the most sensible option for feudal, violent societies. Since most people are right-handed, swordsmen preferred to keep to the left in order to have their right arm nearer to an opponent and their scabbard further from him."

Standing on escalators on the right probably also relates to right-handedness. When escalators were invented in the very late 1800s left-handedness was viewed as 'wrong', to the point that left-handed children were forced to learn to write with their right hand. So right-handedness was seen as the norm. Therefore it became the custom to stand on the right of an escalator in the UK so that your right hand could hold onto the moving handrail.

Well, that's my take on it anyway Grin

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Strangely, nobody disagreed with me!!

MissMooMoo · 20/03/2018 17:18

Canadian livining in England for the last 11 years.
Shops that aren't actually open 24 hours.
Washing up and no rinsing!

A big one for me though was birthday cake at parties.
The cake comes out and then goes away to be cut up into little rectangles (even if cake is circular) then wrapped in napkins and put in party bags!!
In Canada the cake is cut after you sing happy birthday and each child is given a slice to eat

TheDowagerCuntess · 20/03/2018 17:15

Most of the Antipodean in the UK ones have been covered off, but the British obsession with sandwiches (sarnies) as a lunch food.

You can even buy them in Boots!

And yes, NZ homes are notoriously cold - but if you're going to get your home insulated - you might as well put central heating in!

It's the first thing we did when we bought our house. All of my friends who've lived overseas have moved back to NZ and installed central heating. Toasty warm homes.

And I didn't realise the school gate thing was weird - yes all the kids just come out and are expected to be collected or make their way safely home. It does seem to work, or we wouldn't keep doing it, I guess!

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