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For those of you who worked in an office in 1960's - 1980's

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Choccyhobnob · 14/09/2017 11:28

The childhood memories thread reminded me of something I have wondered for years!

I work in an office and have done for the last 12 years. I have never known a time before emails and photocopiers.

My question is this - what did you actually do? I just can't imagine how office life worked back then and I'm really interested!

Thank you for indulging my perhaps naïve questions!

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abigamarone · 14/09/2017 23:28

Having to decipher pages of squiggles ( boss's handwriting), carbon copies (always two copies)
And an electric typewriter. Nothing as high tech as a fax machine.

Davros · 14/09/2017 23:24

I had a number of golf balls which I guarded with my life, including the proportional spacing one, can't remember the name though. Does anyone remember Luncheon Vouchers? We used to get 60p a day. I took a friend's whole stock off him playing poker in the pub. In the late 70s - 80s I worked in a big open plan office that was filled with smoke. I've never smoked but didn't mind one bit! There were offices around the edge and, when I got promoted and sat in an office, the randy MD used to come in when no-one else was around, rub his hands and say "it's cold out there" and put them on my tits! I just laughed it off.

SusanTheGentle · 14/09/2017 22:47

Yep we still use those internal mail envelopes! Though I think they're selling so well because a lot of people don't get that they're supposed to be reused - I rarely see a battered one these days and had to tell out trainee how they worked. I told him "it's like forwarding an email but physical, you just write the next name in the next box" and he got it then.

We only use them for things like membership cards that can't be emailed though. And biscuits, there's been a long term single biscuit through the internal post joke going on for a while.

elkiedee · 14/09/2017 22:44

Oh, I love this thread. But then I have read books on the history of secretarial and office work. Thank you so much OP, and to all the contributors of their office memories.

My first office job was a temporary post in a university alumni office in 1993 - actually, I'd done some work as part of business admin training before that. I'd previously learned to touch type though not fast or very well on a typewriter, I think in school holidays. Both those offices were computerised - WordPerfect in the first, I can't remember in the second as my job was data entry using specialist database software - records of former students who could be contacted, engaged and tapped for money - fundraising.

There were two secretaries and they did fairly traditional stuff though we had computers. I don't know if email was used for the work, possibly not very much because others wouldn't have had it. There must be loads of email now!

Then I did a really posh secretarial course and temped for 3 years, briefly in my hometown and then in London, then worked in the same council department for 14 years. Everywhere I worked used some sort of computers, but there was quite a variety of software - did anyone else use Officepower or Uniplex? My temporary jobs included an accountants, various solicitors' offices, a couple of banks including a private client firm founded in the 17th century and very much a family business, an architects pracitce and several local government and civil service offices. in 1996, I went from one council job in an office where we used a lot of internal email - external email was a few years later - to another where it was available but not in use - I had to ring another neighbourhood office to find out how I could get them to email me templates for something. In several offices I had to use a typewriter to complete forms.

In one civil service office I had to do a word count, divide it by 127 or some equally weird number and fill in a little form for each piece of work. The typists' office had the slowest computers in the building and we had macros to produce letters which took ages to produce something and then you'd discover a mistake and have to do it again - crediting the typists with the intelligence to amend/add specific information to a form letter would have been a lot faster - or giving them the same sort of computers as were being used by people who couldn't type.

Smoking - I've never smoked and some offices were non smoking but I worked in one where other secretaries would come to the office where I was working with a couple of others for a cigarette break, and another with a colleague smoking at her desk. But from 1995 I can only think of those two where that was the case. So glad that didn't continue. Office buildings still included smoking rooms for breaks.

When I started in my last long term job in 1998 we used faxes a lot, though I remember them being a novelty which was getting more popular during a postal strike in 1990. When I left, most of that use had been replaced by email. From 2006 to 2011, I worked for a blind solicitor and his job and support needs really changed - he still needed me to do some secretarial and some support work and to help read out old deeds and things, but he also used a voice reader - when I first began there, I wasn't working with him much but he had a full time reader who didn't do secretarial stuff and a shared team secretary.

Keychanges · 14/09/2017 22:23

I had a summer job circa 1988 in an estate agents. Database consisted of index cards when customer requirements ans mock ups for windows display were done on a huge label making machine, transferred and laminated. Adverts for newspaper were the same format. Lots of keys kept in office too and for sale boards.

LoniceraJaponica · 14/09/2017 22:21

Yes they are eurochick. I work for a stationery company and we sell quite a few.

eurochick · 14/09/2017 22:20

The envelopes with squares for internal mail are still going strong in 2017!

mumof2kiddos · 14/09/2017 22:11

worked in mid 90s in a power distribution company in its commercial division.

  1. Used to write letters on papers and then sent to admin for getting it typed with 2/3 copies
  2. Had a computer but only used for MS-Office and printouts of report. NO internet
  3. Fax and Photocopies - loads and loads
  4. This particular division used to work with consumer grievances regarding incorrect meter readings. These meter readings were written down onsite on massive thick books which the poor meter readers had to carry when visiting households to update the latest readings. We had to very frequently refer to this meter books while dealing with related complaints. However all these readings were also uploaded in a central database and could be accessed via intranet.

Late 1990s - in an IT company.

  1. Emails, internet, intranet - everything was already operational
  2. Lot less paperworks
Eastpoint · 14/09/2017 22:03

Started at 9:30 & finished at 5:30. Worked in the City but had my hair cut in my lunch hour in the West End. Had lunch with wine with my colleagues for no special reason. Got taken out for champagne at lunch by random young men. Lots of bombscares on the way home. Knew everybody's phone numbers off by heart. My boss would ask me why I was still in the office if I was there at 5:35.

RaininSummer · 14/09/2017 21:59

I was a civil servant from 1981. We used to calculate people's benefits with pen, calculator and paper claims folders. All post was physically walked through the offices by the assistants to pair it with their folder. One memorable day the mortgage interest rate went up several times which kept us busy redoing all claims before the giros were printed. We got computers just before I left in 1985.

SwedishEdith · 14/09/2017 21:56

FineSally - I wonder if we worked in the same place? We had 3 canteens as well depending on your position in the organisation. I had to clock on and off. If I was more than 3 minutes late, I'd lose 15 minutes pay (This applied to all staff!). To avoid this, train and bus times meant I had to be 20 minutes early and yet got no credit for that.

We had a tea trolley that came round in the morning (could get toast as well) and the afternoon. And got 45 minutes for lunch, precisely. Lots of bells for every break.

BikeRunSki · 14/09/2017 21:54

The summer I left school - mic 1980s- I had a job as a dispatch rider in Central London. Most of my jobs were delivering letters - I was like real time email.

Chestervase1 · 14/09/2017 21:49

IBM golf ball typewriters. What was the typeface that had different spacing for different letters, I can't remember now.

Laska5772 · 14/09/2017 21:42

Yes smoking in office. And tea ladies ) they were always ladies) and men who thought it was ok to comment on and sometimes grope the young female juniors.
I once had a boss who asked me if I was wearing a bra! I was about 17.
And of course they would ask you if you were "engaged yet" at interviews and if you intended to have babies .....

Davros · 14/09/2017 21:42

I was still using my shorthand at my last job in 2002. It wasn't required but everywhere I've worked found it useful. Does anyone else remember Signature Books? A3 book with pages made of blotting paper and you put the letters and shit for signature inside each page. We had a machine for taking off the perforated holey sides of computer printouts.

Abra1d · 14/09/2017 21:37

Im the early nineties we had a modem connection between the markering department I worked for and our designers. You transferred files by sticking a disk into a kind of computer drive connected to a phone line. It was dial up and was considered state of the art. But you had to wait to disconnect it when the file had transferred.

woodhill · 14/09/2017 21:34

Loads of memos and copies for everyone.

Jogel · 14/09/2017 21:31

Great thread! My first full-time job (1984) was in the Computer Dept of a large manufacturing company, operating a VAX mainframe computer, which had it's own climate controlled room. Data was backed up onto huge reels of tape and you had to type in commands via a console to mount/ummount the tape.
There was a social club which was open at lunchtimes, people who operated machinery in the factory would have a few pints Shock during lunch hour.
Everyone smoked at their desks. We'd dress up anyone getting married and parade them around the site on their last day before their wedding. Women who left to have a baby rarely returned after maternity leave, being a SAHM was commonplace.

BananaSandwichesEveryDay · 14/09/2017 21:29

I worked in benefits offices from the late 1970's to mid 1980's. We interviewed people claiming benefits, answered telephone calls that were put through to us by the office operator and responded to correspondence by hand. We calculated benefits manually and had to complete a multitude of forms to arrange payment, either via the employment office or by issuing a weekly payment book. Used to take ages and we were often delayed when people didn't bring relevant evidence in when they made their claim. No computers back then - even a calculator was considered 'hi-tech '.
We had no targets as such, but our supervisor would keep a check on our in-trays as well as checking a percentage of our calculations. After a couple of years I moved into the role of office cashier which meant I was responsible for recording and issuing receipts for cash paid into the office ( NI contributions) as well as calculating and paying weekly wages in cash. I also had to prepare and balance the office account, monthly and annually, which were then sent to the Newcastle office.

SusanTheGentle · 14/09/2017 21:08

I got my first office junior job in about 1998 one summer. I could touch type, answer phones and I knew how the computers worked, I was super popular.

I recall my dad telling me when I got my first professional role in about 2005 never to let the men know I could touch type or I'd be writing things up for them all day..
I don't think it would even have occurred to my colleagues to handwrite anything by then, and in fact I've been the envy of many colleagues for my 90wpm skillz.

Alabasterangel6 · 14/09/2017 20:56

The carbon paper came in a really solid a4 box with tissue sheets between it. You re-used over and over till it didn't work any more.

Yes to stapling the fax sent slips to the documents. They were thermal paper and discoloured over time!

Everything being date/received/sent/paid stamped with a stamper.

Providing coffee and cream in a jug to visitors in cups and saucers (they get a Starbucks from subsidised canteen now!).

Memos. Endless memos.

Laska5772 · 14/09/2017 20:48

so sorry . a genuine mistake there how utterly embarrasing

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Laska5772 · 14/09/2017 20:46

oh heck that second on isnt right!! ill get it taken down right away

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