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Biggest cultural shock you have come across?

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hibbledobble · 08/05/2017 14:11

What have you encountered while travelling that was your biggest cultural shock?

I'll go first: in Poland I saw families/extended families living 10+ in a 2 bedroom home. The concept of having a bedroom or even a bed to oneself is seemingly unheard of. Everyone sleeps in different beds each night, and beds are often shared. Having visitors in this set up is no problem either: everyone just rearranges. Water also came from Wells, lots of homes had no bathrooms. Ovens were these metal beasts that were plugged into the mains.

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BarbaraofSeville · 10/05/2017 12:49

quencher

Reading your list, I can't help thinking that MN AIBU would have a field day with some of those, especially the wedding and visiting/feeding relatives ones.

I am British and I don't really understand the class system, so I can see how bonkers it must seem to other nationalities.

People probably disagree with me, but I think that, for a lot of people, there is a lot of overlap between middle and working class, that it isn't really relevant though.

Crowshay · 10/05/2017 12:47

Mommybunny - how infuriatingly patronising!

Conversely though, the French, when confronted with a foreigner who only knows rusty GCSE French, often refuse to translate even if their English is half decent! But I like that though, must be much easier to learn French in France because of that attitude. Italians are ruining their language with far too many (often dreadful) anglocisms in the process of being too keen about English.

quencher · 10/05/2017 12:36

You can live in the uk and not see one bicycle with wing mirrors.
You don't have to think about electricity and water as long as you pay your bills.
You learn that there is no such thing as "pick what you want" on the side of the road but on rare occasion someone one will put things out stead of binning for people to take.
You can actually move into a semi furnish house if that's is what you are looking for for renting.
Houses and flats are counted by the number of bedrooms and not rooms in the house.
You expect to find the toilet, kitchen inside and it's expected.
You don't look for a septic tank in the back yard and not plan for when it needs draining.
a bungalow meaning a one floor house and not a mansion with a boys quarter where your servants live away from the main house.

ShoutOutToMyEx · 10/05/2017 12:28

We really wanted to immerse ourselves but it was so hard with everyone trying to practise their English constantly.

Same in Germany. Especially amongst young people - speaking English is 'cool' and they jump at the chance to show off. As I'm sure I would in their situation!

quencher · 10/05/2017 12:14

I remember trying to explain the uk class system to my cousin. She could not understand it. Her only understanding of class was those who "work and have jobs as working class and those who don't.

Where am from the concept of invitation didn't exist or still does not. People just turn up at your house. People will travel for two days and just turn up. No notice given most doors are left open during the day when someone is home. If I arrive and the door is closed, it means people are not home. You walk away.

In the uk you know someone has adopted British ways when,
They call people turning up to your house.
They expect a phone call before coming
They don't expect to be fed when they turn up
The amount of sugar they drink changes to two tea spoons.
They don't boil their milk with tea in the same kettle or source pan but add it to their tea from a jug.
Tea with milk isn't referred to as English tea any more. And you start to refer to what was known as normal tea as tea with water (I can't translate properly)
When every day normal potatoes is no longer sweet potatoes but potatoes. (From Irish/English potatoes to just potatoes).
When you know the amount of people attending your wedding and not the whole village and there relatives too from another village turning up.
When you don't have to cook food with random people turning up in mind. Just in case.

Once my mum and group of family members and friends where watching question time. Two of them demanded they were to be taken to BBC question time because the people where talking rubbish. They didn't know you had to be invited. Secondly, that it's filmed in advance. Thirdly, that it might not be nearby, they assumed they would just be let in. Not forgetting the show airs a 10pm

When you go to a cafe to order a hot beverage and you don't have to question whether to ask for an escort. Not to be stared at like you have just asked for a prostitute instead of biscuit/ doughnuts or whatever nibble you want.

To use the word "walk someone to the door" instead escort you to the door. Not only that. You don't walk with that person half way to their house sometimes because they are too polite or scared to say thank you , I can walk from here.

You don't have to use the word soda instead of fizzy drink.
When you don't have to involve all of your family members including extended ones in your marital issues.

When you can't just move in with a relative because you don't like at your house.

When meat isn't a priority but any other food on the plate and they have equal value or vegetables are sometimes seen as better for you.

When you don't have to insist your child seats with a guest you have invited when eating. And also share the same food.

When you don't remember the last time you used your fingers to eat food instead of a knife and fork. More so, if it's the traditional food that is not English.

When the word "please" becomes a concept you can grasp and understand and at the end or beginning of every sentence when asking for something because it's considered polite and not the tone of your voice as way to plead and ask things.

You have learnt not to kneel down when greeting someone elderly person. When you don't mind when someone you does not understand this calls you an English child.

When rudeness to elderly people is seen as ok and you don't flinch when that happens.

The concept of old people living alone becomes acceptable and it no longer bothers you.

When you feel pity and sadness when you see street children on tv and you would not have butted an eyelid before.

When all dogs sleep in the house and not outside and fed scraps. (I know someone who had food that was going off and offered it to their neighbour to feed the dog, and thought it was acceptable behaviour. I had to explain why it was so wrong to do so in England)

When you can sort off grasp why and how some people love their dogs more than humans and not see it as white thing.
When your normal clothes become traditional clothes and you refer to them as that. Only now reserved for special occasions of cultural purpose.

When your children can eat fish fingers and not feel like you are making a protest by not giving them your traditional food.

Phew! I could go on.

BlastedtoSmithereens · 10/05/2017 12:10

free just read your post on page 20 and it made me cry. Hardly do you hear stories like that anymore. You sound like a lovely family.

Kursk · 10/05/2017 12:00

FreeNiki

If the police force in your home country is ineffective then people learn to deal with problems themselves.

As for the salmon comment I am sure there are many other foods that could be specialist imports to a country

brasty · 10/05/2017 11:55

I found the racism in New Zealand shocking as well. People always say New Zealand is like England 40 or 50 years ago. I agree, but it includes the bad bits as well as good bits.

LadyRoseate · 10/05/2017 11:52

Yes I was at an open mic comedy night in London and a NZ guy came on and was not v. good - he was (mildly) heckled by someone who looked possibly Chinese or Japanese. He used a racist term to the man as a comeback. The whole pub GASPED and looked daggers at the guy on stage who had no choice but to slink out. He obviously thought what he said was fine and amusing.

Athrawes · 10/05/2017 11:46

I am pretty immune to shock but am still appalled by how here in New Zealand it is apparently quite acceptable to express blatantly anti Asian views. Anti Chinese, Japanese opinions are mainstream, comedians use Asians as the butt of their jokes and in schools no one bats an eyelid when kids make the kind of remarks which were unacceptable in the UK in the 1970's. I am not saying Britain is not racist but racism in Britain is largely frowned upon.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 10/05/2017 11:45

Very much agree with goldilocks about the patriotism and flag waving in the US. I really like it, actually, but remember being in Boston just after 9/11, when the display of flags was something else; a neighbour had a 10ft one hung outside his home, and floodlit

Also recall the diner in Annapolis, where at 11am each morning everyone stands up and recites the Pledge of Allegiance Smile

LaLegue · 10/05/2017 11:45

Actually they might have had a point about being drunk and fat Grin

mousymary · 10/05/2017 11:36

There is so much pontificating on this thread by some people who have spent a matter of days in a place. Not so much about sights , but "Germans do this" or "Americans do that" .

Reminds me of when I was sandwiched at a dinner party in NY (as one is!) between US investment banker about to buy house in Hamptons and Dutch model on other. Boy, what a mutual admiration society Hmm . But I didn't care about that, what made me Angry was that over my head they were talking about how he had just been to the UK and they were discussing Britain and how Brits did this and how the weather was always awful and how British food was disgusting and how Brits spoke and that British women were fat and drunks etc etc.

I'm sure many nationalities would be spluttering at reading this thread.

FloweringDeranger · 10/05/2017 11:28

Me neither Peppers, we need rapprochement on both sides somehow Sad

Pickitup · 10/05/2017 11:27

I'm late to this thread but I visited Thailand nearly 20 years ago and I was truly shocked to see the amount of prostitution everywhere we went.
It really has put me off returning.

BluePeppers · 10/05/2017 11:20

Flower I agree. I think it goes with what I have posted before - the class system in the Uk and the snobbery and inverse snobbery that is so present in the uk.

It certainly not a side that I enjoy living here I have to say.

LadyRoseate · 10/05/2017 11:18

Hopping we once hired a car in America - the guy was soooo apologetic because the one we'd booked wasn't available and they only had a "small" one. It was a huge luxurious saloon like a wealthy exec would drive in the UK :o There was lots of forecourt confusion as we scanned it for the "small car".

treaclesoda · 10/05/2017 11:11

Something I've read about on mumsnet that blew my mind was the idea of job hunting by contacting employers even if they haven't advertised, and sending a CV etc. Or walking from business to business handing in CVs. You just can't do that where I live, they wouldn't even accept them to be polite.

And as for getting an interview for a job even if you don't meet all the criteria, that just wouldn't happen here either. If they had 30 criteria and you only met 29 of them, you wouldn't get an interview, no matter how enthusiastic you were about learning the 30th one.

FloweringDeranger · 10/05/2017 11:11

I see you didn't get my postscript Niki... but I don't see American social inequality and violence levels as something to aspire to, do you? At least they have more physical room for it.

FreeNiki · 10/05/2017 11:01

Other places I've been might do things a little differently, but there isn't thehostility and aggression between different native groups that you get here.

Really?

There is no blatant hostility and aggression between black, white and hispanic in the USA?

It only happens in Britain Confused

FloweringDeranger · 10/05/2017 10:57

(European traveller only! Slightly alarming that having re-read my post I think of African tribal wars!)

FloweringDeranger · 10/05/2017 10:54

Biggest culture shocks I've had have been right here in Britain. It's always been 'multicultural' between the rich (defined as anyone with more than me and I'm not alone in using that), the poor and a few hanging around in the middle. Other places I've been might do things a little differently, but there isn't thehostility and aggression between different native groups that you get here.

Hoppinggreen · 10/05/2017 10:52

When I was at Uni I had a friend from America and her parents were due to visit. She was running late so asked me to go to the Halls carpark to find them. I had never met them but she told me they were driving a "small green car"
I couldn't find a small green car in the whole carpark but then I saw a family of Americans emerge from a HUGE green car, can't remember the make but to them it was a small car!!

EBearhug · 10/05/2017 10:20

Drs having their offices in residential buildings is very common in France. Same with dentists.

I'd say it's common in the UK, too. Both my dentists have been (I've only ever been registered with two dentists, so not a comprehensive survey.) It's only my last two Hampshire doctors which haven't been, so that's two out of 8. (Actually, I can't remember the Bournemouth one's building, so maybe it's 3 out of 8.)

FreeNiki · 10/05/2017 09:50

FreeNiki, why would Birdz be expelled? She didn't say she organised the kidnapping. I'm surprised at people being surprised about this. Not that it happens in my world, but in some people's universes consequences have actions. They didn't break the guy's legs, just told him the outcome of pestering Birdz. I am faintly envious of Birdz having men who care enough to stand up for her.

So you'd be happy for your teenage son at uni to be kidnapped by a pack of thugs and threatened?

If she had problems with a guy in university halls, she doesnt state the nature of the problems. Could have been noise etc.

She should have spoken to the hall warden. Nope tell her violent brother. She said it was a common way to sort things out in her area so she knew full well her brother would do it. She deserved kicking out of uni.

She also said she had no idea you bought salmon in tesco. There is a difference between being working class and being a total imbecile. Im struggling with how before Uni she apparently either never went to supermarket or if she did walked around it with her eyes shut. Meat, counter, cheese counter, fish counter. How can you not see?