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Genuinely interesting stuff you learned at school/university/work

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MrsHathaway · 25/07/2016 11:26

At a tangent from an otherwise rather tedious thread, some of us started talking about the history of the English language.

I did a paper called something like History and Structure of the English Language at university and honestly it didn't feel at all like work. The complicated bits have faded into the dusty corners of my brain, but some interesting snippets have remained within easy grasp.

For example, you can see a lot of the geopolitical history of the British Isles in what we now call English. Very basic words like low numbers (two, three) and natural features (sun, land, water) have their roots in our very earliest history and have scarcely changed since the Stone Age. They're also very similar to their equivalents in languages local at the time - northern European languages like Swedish, German, etc.

Place names come in odd clumps too - there are areas in eg Yorkshire and the Highlands which have very Norse names, and often there will be a geographical boundary between Norse place names and Anglo Saxon place names, such as a wide river or mountain ridge.

French came next, with the Normans in the eleventh century. A lot of our food words come from that period, including beef, pork, salmon, etc.

As English eyes looked further and further overseas we started adding more exotic ingredients to our kitchens and words to our vocabularies. Tomatoes, chocolate!

ANYWAY

We're often told that we won't use 90% of what we learn at school or even university, although we don't know which 90%. But I think it's almost always worth learning stuff for its own sake, if only because it's mildly interesting for one day or breaks the ice at one party where you happen to meet your soul mate.

So go on, what snippets have you retained from your years of formal education that are genuinely interesting in their own right? Can be a tiny thing or a major complicated theory, but it must be interesting - at least interesting enough for us to say "well, fancy that".

I'll leave you with this: in Japanese there was no word for "thank you". There were lots of ways of expressing gratitude, but no single expression in the European way. Then the Portuguese came, and suddenly the Japanese were trading with them. They used lots of hand gestures and gradually a kind of pidgin developed to allow them to communicate until there were enough on each side speaking the other's language. But one legacy from that time and that pidgin is a single-word "thank you" in Japanese: arigato. Which you'll notice is remarkably similar to the Portuguese obrigado.

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evelynj · 28/07/2016 22:06

Great thread! The cigarette lighter was invented before the match.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 28/07/2016 21:54

Please please please encourage it!!!!!

There are so few of us....and even fewer women physicists.

CoteDAzur · 28/07/2016 21:50

I have a wannabe physicist at home. She is nearly 11 Smile

BobbinThreadbare123 · 28/07/2016 21:32

Cote, I know. Those were examples of questions that are inspiring....

The many-worlds interpretation is my favourite, but the de Broglie-Bohm model you link to has nice tie-ins to the uncertainty principle.

I always hope my enjoyment of this stuff captures my students' imaginations; there aren't enough physicists about!

CoteDAzur · 28/07/2016 21:09

"If you put a detector by the slits, you will count particles. Freaky!... How does the system 'know' what state to be in? Have you spoiled it by making a measurement?"

That is the Copenhagen Interpretation that was turned into the Standard Model, which Einstein loudly objected to.

There is another model that is gaining traction that does not involve the universe knowing when it's observed and changing its rules accordingly.

maisiewalker · 28/07/2016 20:37

Our school had a visit from someone who worked for a Space Laboratory. To explain the mind blowing numbers that studying space involves he showed the chn the toilet paper test. He used a water melon as the sun and, although I can't remember the exact numbers, it was something like Mercury was the equivalent of three sheets of toilet paper from sun, the Earth about 10 and Jupiter about 160 sheets (was about 25 yards from Sun). He then pointed the the 'Sun' and said " If Jupiter is this far from the Sun, where do you think the next Sun will be?" Well the chn said things like the library, hall, playground and when told further they said local High St etc. The answer was New York! And to think there are billions of stars out there. Mind blowing,

BikeRunSki · 28/07/2016 20:00

Bobbib I passed A level Chemistry and Physics and quite a lot of my Physics degree using variations of my "Wave-particle Duality of Light" essay!

DadDadDad · 28/07/2016 19:55

RJnomore - actually, MH can be shown to work on a larger number of doors and doing that actually helps to show why it works.

If there were 100 doors, you picked one, then MH opened 98 of the other doors to reveal goats, it's obvious that there is a very high chance that the remaining door has the car and you should switch.

In DOND, if there were 100 boxes, they are opened at random and the best prize may be revealed at any point along the way. Once you are down to the last two boxes, it is entirely down to chance which has got the better of the last remaining prizes, so it is just as likely that the box you started with has the better prize.

CoteDAzur · 28/07/2016 19:51

"If you are having a blood transfusion and you have a feeling of impending doom it can be a sign that you are being transfused with the wrong blood type."

Which school/university/work did you learn that?

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 28/07/2016 19:43

in school we learnt about fetal circulation which is really interesting and I've never forgotten it even after 20 years. From my degree that I'm currently studying, the electron transfer chain always makes me marvel at how amazing we are.

But here's a funny one:
Whether asparagus makes your wee smell funny is genetically determined and there are naturally geographical patterns. Also genetically determined is whether you can smell that your wee smells when you eat asparagus. So in some countries (China for example) it was initially thought that asparagus didn't impact the smell of the wee whilst in fact it was just that they couldn't actually smell that their wee smelled funny.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 28/07/2016 19:23

Yep, #8. You get 1,3,4,5,6,7 out in the first over (2's not facing) then in the second you bowl out 2,9,10,11.

Elllicam · 28/07/2016 19:13

If you are having a blood transfusion and you have a feeling of impending doom it can be a sign that you are being transfused with the wrong blood type.

Forgetmenotblue · 28/07/2016 19:01

Polka dots...one?

But isn't that the same in most games of cricket? Regardless of how many runs any one person scored?

RJnomore1 · 28/07/2016 18:59

Right after a long conversation and lots of diagrams and post it notes I've got the monty hall thing and it only works if you have three doors...

GrouchyKiwi · 28/07/2016 18:55

Hm. Forgot about change of ends between overs. #8?

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 28/07/2016 18:50

Nope...

GrouchyKiwi · 28/07/2016 18:44

Polkadots I asked about Test vs ODI because I misunderstood the question! Having reread it, I think the answer is #2.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 28/07/2016 18:27

Kiwi, just one team, your usual 11 batsmen, all clean bowled (for the sake of the argument). Just one innings too. I don't think it matters if it's ODI or test, although I've never thought about it!

BobbinThreadbare123 · 28/07/2016 17:57

One of the things I enjoyed most about my degree was the weird stuff that the universe throws out at us, like how waves and particles are essentially interchangeable. If you shine a light through two tiny slits in a screen, the pattern that builds up the other side is a set of light and dark fringes which is how you'd expect a wave to behave. However, if you measure how the screen absorbs the light, it seems like there are particles instead of interfering waves! If you put a detector by the slits, you will count particles. Freaky! This can be done with really big particles too (over 800 atoms clumped together will do it). How does the system 'know' what state to be in? Have you spoiled it by making a measurement?

I love all of this mind-blowing stuff!

RitchyBestingFace · 28/07/2016 17:44

The GIs and British ladies is interesting but I don't really buy the theory.

WW2 was most likely a hotbed (no pun intended) of promiscuous sex because for lots of young people the possibility of imminent death was very real and because social norms had flown out of the window. British men were away, women were in the forces & land army, children were sent away.

I also think (but would need to research this) that contraception - condoms the cap - was more widely available and used in the US at this time so that would alter the context.

DesolateWaist · 28/07/2016 17:23

I did have something to add and now I've forgotten it.
pointless place marking post

GrouchyKiwi · 28/07/2016 14:26

Polkadots Are we talking ODI or Test, one innings or two, both teams or one team?

I love that language discussions on every forum I've ever been on are always fascinating and go on for ages. My little addition to the linguistics facts on here is that the evolution of the NZ accent can be traced pretty much in its entirety in audio recordings because it's so new.

AlbusPercival · 28/07/2016 10:56
ThumbWitchesAbroad · 28/07/2016 10:49

Ah yes - powder explosions - learnt about a custard powder factory explosion that destroyed it in my first degree!

franklyshankly · 28/07/2016 09:43

CuttedUpPear No, I'm saying that in the states the social responsibility of stopping was the woman's and vice versa here. Therefore, socially constructed differently in each country.

I don't mean all American men, or all British women. Also, this obviously didn't apply to everyone in the 40s. (I'm sure social norms surrounding sex would have changed significantly by the 80s/90s). I just thought it was a cool example of how different rules and norms manifest and are regulated in different cultures. Much like the blue/green differentiation as mentioned up thread.