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Genuinely interesting stuff you learned at school/university/work

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MrsHathaway · 25/07/2016 11:26

At a tangent from an otherwise rather tedious thread, some of us started talking about the history of the English language.

I did a paper called something like History and Structure of the English Language at university and honestly it didn't feel at all like work. The complicated bits have faded into the dusty corners of my brain, but some interesting snippets have remained within easy grasp.

For example, you can see a lot of the geopolitical history of the British Isles in what we now call English. Very basic words like low numbers (two, three) and natural features (sun, land, water) have their roots in our very earliest history and have scarcely changed since the Stone Age. They're also very similar to their equivalents in languages local at the time - northern European languages like Swedish, German, etc.

Place names come in odd clumps too - there are areas in eg Yorkshire and the Highlands which have very Norse names, and often there will be a geographical boundary between Norse place names and Anglo Saxon place names, such as a wide river or mountain ridge.

French came next, with the Normans in the eleventh century. A lot of our food words come from that period, including beef, pork, salmon, etc.

As English eyes looked further and further overseas we started adding more exotic ingredients to our kitchens and words to our vocabularies. Tomatoes, chocolate!

ANYWAY

We're often told that we won't use 90% of what we learn at school or even university, although we don't know which 90%. But I think it's almost always worth learning stuff for its own sake, if only because it's mildly interesting for one day or breaks the ice at one party where you happen to meet your soul mate.

So go on, what snippets have you retained from your years of formal education that are genuinely interesting in their own right? Can be a tiny thing or a major complicated theory, but it must be interesting - at least interesting enough for us to say "well, fancy that".

I'll leave you with this: in Japanese there was no word for "thank you". There were lots of ways of expressing gratitude, but no single expression in the European way. Then the Portuguese came, and suddenly the Japanese were trading with them. They used lots of hand gestures and gradually a kind of pidgin developed to allow them to communicate until there were enough on each side speaking the other's language. But one legacy from that time and that pidgin is a single-word "thank you" in Japanese: arigato. Which you'll notice is remarkably similar to the Portuguese obrigado.

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fleuricle · 30/01/2017 22:04

placemarking (sorry)

Morporkia · 15/10/2016 15:01

if a male barnacle was the same size as an average man, it's penis would be roughly the same length (height?) as Nelson's Column...phnar phnar

buddy79 · 13/10/2016 11:52

Not really on an intellectual par but interesting...I watched a documentary about a girl who was 'feral', had been living in a sort of abandoned town with only dogs to learn from somewhere in Russia, before being found and taken in. She moved and barked like a dog. She was 12/13 by then and the documentary explained that although she could acquire language, the window in her development for acquiring grammar had passed. So she was able to learn to use correct verbs and nouns, but was never able to use connecting words to build sentences. It was a sad story that I wasn't entirely convinced by but I think that part was true!

The other thing I am always fascinated by is the fact that before candles were made from petroleum, they were made from whale blubber, hence the dangerous but potentially prosperous careers of whalers in the 1700's. To capture and sell the blubber from a large sperm whale would set you up for life.

Iguessyourestuckwithme · 06/10/2016 11:58

At Nasa Houston they told us that my phone is the same spec [MB] as the computer in charge of the moon landing.

BananaInPyjama · 04/10/2016 11:00

not at uni but at Kennedy Space Centre....the Atlantis shuttle has less computing capability than a standard Xbox has today.
That blew my mind how quickly technology has developed.

MarshaBrady · 03/08/2016 20:52

Great stuff.

I played Monty Hall with the dc and it helped, we were all amazed. Just reading it I thought no way, then it does work.

PacificDogwod · 03/08/2016 20:51

I believe that, MrsHathaway!

There you go - our eyes are really just a lens

MrsHathaway · 03/08/2016 20:47

People are hopeless witnesses, and get worse the more often they're asked.

I used to be a rowing umpire (lapsed on maternity leave). Trying to recall which crew crossed the line five seconds ago when it's literally your only job is much more difficult than you'd think Blush Hurrah for photo finishes, frankly.

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PacificDogwod · 03/08/2016 20:27

As a follow on to the colour perception thing (that's fascinating, steppemum, I never knew that about Indonesia), there is good evidence that only a fraction of what we 'see' is what enters our eyeballs in the form of light/wavelengths. The vast majority that we perceive as 'vision' is made up by our brains.
Which is why most people make terrible eye witnesses… Grin

I'll see if I can find an example

steppemum · 03/08/2016 20:23

Oh wow, just found this thread and I love it.
Can I go back to colours?

I used to live in Indonesia. There are words for every colour in Indonesian, as a hang over from Dutch colonisation, but the Indonesians themselves never use most of them. They use about 5:
white, black, blue, green and red.

Everything red, pink orange or purplish is classed as red
Everything pale, cream, beige, light clours (blue, pale pink etc) is classed as white.
Everything blue of every shade, including turquoise etc is just blue, including all bottle blue/green/sea greens.
Green is for grass/leaf colour green.

But te thing is, it isn't only that they don't use the words for the different coluors, they don't see them as different, so if I had red shorts and a bright pink top,thye would say they were both red and see them as the same colour, and as matching. Their colour perception was different, they didn't divide colours into so many sub categories.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/08/2016 10:37

There was a whole article in a National Geographic devoted to "real life zombies" which includes that one about the ants, and I think the toxoplasmoid mice as well - yes, just found something about it, both included voices.nationalgeographic.com/2013/10/30/natures-walking-dead-real-life-zombies/

I would like to add these astonishing creatures.
I found one in my living room (or rather, DS2 did and said "oo look, mummy, whale fly!" which was fair enough because it did look like a whale shark)
Anyway - took me a while to work out what it was but it's a domino cuckoo bee (native to Australia) - as the name suggests, it lays its eggs in other bees' nests - nicking in while they're still laying the eggs, and before the cells are capped off. The cuckoo bee larva hatches first, and either kills the other larva, or just eats all the food in the cell, so that when the other bee larva hatches it starves to death anyway. Such a PRETTY creature, but so horrible!
Even more interesting, each type of cuckoo bee targets a specific other native Australian bee - so not just horrible, but picky too!

Genuinely interesting stuff you learned at school/university/work
Bolshybookworm · 31/07/2016 21:44

I believe the ducks penis was also covered by Isabella Rossellini in her "green porno" series Grin

m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_-I1aRGttY

A series of slightly insane but very informative short videos that she produced about sexual selection in the animal world. I 💜 Isabella Rossellini.

PacificDogwod · 31/07/2016 20:14

I am loving and loathing this thread in equal measure.

My brain hurts thinking about the Monty Hall problem - sorry to go back to that. DS1(13) is despairing of me - I'm good at maths, love probability games; he's got a real aptitude for maths. And while I accept that a switch has the higher probability of winning the prize, it is SO counterintuitive that it hurts me….

May I contribute the explosive eversion of a male duck's corkscrew penis?
Yes, it's a weird as it sounds - google 'exploding duck penis' if you dare Grin; YouTube will enlighten you.
I came across this while hospitalised with pregnancy complications at 25 weeks gestation with DS2, hoping and praying that he would not appear any time soon. A friend gave me the book "Sex on Earth" and, my, what an eye opener it was!

Wooterus · 31/07/2016 10:15

Zeno's paradox does sound familiar! I love the thing about shooting a tortoise (makes me sound like an animal abuser but you know what I mean...)

MrsHathaway · 31/07/2016 09:44

Would remembering that the Latin-based word 'agua' means water in Spanish and therefore the country must be more likely to be in S America?

YES!!

Much obliged.

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caroldecker · 31/07/2016 01:10

Zeno's paradox was that you cannot shoot a tortoise with an arrow. The point was that after the arrow had covered half the distance, the tortoise had moved. Breaking the arrow movement into halves and tortoise moving meant the arrow would never hit

Trills · 31/07/2016 00:27

Not quite as good as mind-control fungus, but there is a (category of?) wasp species where the famale stings a caterpillar to paralyse it and then lays her eggs inside its body. Time passes, the eggs hatch, and the larvae eat the still-fresh-because-it's-not-dead-yet caterpillar from the inside out.

HopeClearwater · 30/07/2016 23:49

Wooterus (love your name!) isn't that one of Zeno's paradoxes? Greek fella? Something about a tortoise...

OjosCansados · 30/07/2016 23:45

MrsHathaway, thank you for this thread. I've only just found it and am working my way through it slowly so I can absorb all the information. Early on you mention that you can never remember whether Nicaragua is in S America or Africa... Would remembering that the Latin-based word 'agua' means water in Spanish and therefore the country must be more likely to be in S America? (I don't think there are any Spanish-speaking countries in Africa?)

HandbagHelper · 30/07/2016 23:34

JinRamen I am not sure if anyone verified your info on kiwis having the "flattest" accent but that interests me. DH is Canadian and has been the only person I know to talk about this. He insists Canadian is the flattest accent. I don't agree but don't know which accent is!

Wooterus · 30/07/2016 23:29

Actually (Google has refreshed my memory) - it's not because you can't take small enough steps. It's because you have to cross half of the room first. Once you've done that, you have to cross half of the remaining half. And then again. So, in theory, you never can actually reach the finish line - there is always a tiny half-distance left to go.

Silly, but fun.

Wooterus · 30/07/2016 23:21

This is fascinating. The thing about your position in the food chain dictating the shape of your pupils has blown my mind.

I remember in an A-level philosophy class our teacher explaining a theory (I forget which one through the mists of time...) by asking a student to walk from one side of the room to the other, which obviously they did. The teacher then proved that it was actually impossible (according to this philosophical theory) to walk across the room - they reasoned that, to be able to cross the room, you had to be able to cross half of it, which we all agreed with. To be able to cross half of the room, you had to be able to cross a quarter of the room. And so on, until the distances were so small that the guinea pig student wasn't physically capable of taking small enough steps Grin Thus making it impossible for her to cross the room.

Obviously it's not a perfect metaphor for the theory (since, when crossing a room, you don't need to do it in impossibly small steps) but it was a good demonstration of reductio ad absurdum, to the point that I still remember it almost fifteen years later!

starchildareyoulistening · 30/07/2016 17:12

Mind control parasites! There's a fungal spore that's breathed in by ants in the Amazon rainforest (I think) and somehow affects their brain so they abandon all their normal eating/working/reproducing activities and focus all their efforts on heading for a high place where the sun reaches them. Once they reach a suitable place they die, and the fungus grows using their body as compost and enjoys the perfect location they've provided. (I'm very vague on the details of this, it was on a nature documentary I watched ages ago.)

A similar but much more subtle effect is thought to be caused by the toxoplasma gondii parasite, which I learned about at college. Its cysts can be carried by various hosts, but need to find their way into the digestive tract of a cat in order to reproduce. Again I don't have a concrete source to hand so I don't know if this is a genuine fact or just a theory, but the idea is that when rats/mice are carrying toxoplasma gondii, the parasite somehow affects their brain chemistry to reduce their self-preservation instincts and make them more reckless. This makes them more likely to fall prey to a cat, which will then ingest the rodent plus parasite and give the toxoplasma the environment it needs.
It's been suggested that this process could work similarly on humans, making toxoplasma carriers more likely to be involved in road accidents due to reckless driving. Of course there's no proof of causation there - maybe people who are laid-back about exposure to cat poo are also more likely to be laid-back about road safety - but it's an interesting idea.

caroldecker · 30/07/2016 13:07

Research has shown when women are ovulating. they tend to behave more flirtatiously and dress slightly differently.

Cathpot · 30/07/2016 10:15

I'm slightly randomly now trying to imagine the effects on society if we did signal ovulation- eyes turning orange or something. I'm thinking that in places with easy access to contraception it might not be significant? Would it have encouraged more mother-worship type religions or just some sort of horrible woman shaming cultural practice- like societies where women are excluded during their periods.

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